Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?

saintfan · 06-10-2010, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

If ya scared call the law.

saintfan · 06-11-2010, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Saintfan

At times, but I'm still not understanding how you can blame Brooks for our inability to stop a screen pass.

Originally Posted by Blake6900

I thought I already answered this but I'll try again. The defense never gets to practice against the screen because the offense doesn't run it. Why doesn't the offense run it? For the reasons regarding Brooks that I've already stated.

Look, I know the first team defense practices against second team offense for game plan purposes. But screens are pretty much Defense 101. Unless your team can't or won't run them. If your defense can't practice against quality play execution (screens, posts, etc.) your defense can't and won't be effective against those types of plays.

If the Saints can't run a screen, how can they practice defending it? The defense probably looks great in practice against it. But against who is the real question. By game time, against teams that can run screens properly, the defense looks ineffective.

There you go...I had to go find it. There is SO MUCH of this stuff in the archives. So, here we have this fellow attempting to establish that our defense's inability to stop a screen pass was because Brooks couldn't throw a screen pass. The Brooks haters will stop at NOTHING I tell ya...NOTHING.

Srgt. Hulka · 06-11-2010, 01:40 PM

Saw the exact same thing on a rerun of Everybody Loves Raymond just last night. Debra's parents were getting a divorce and Raymond couldn’t stop smiling about it, even when he knew how serious it was to Debra. Coincidence?

SapperSaint · 06-11-2010, 01:46 PM

My wife smiles when we get into arguments. It used to pi$$ me off! But it is a nervious reaction to anxity.

saintfan · 06-11-2010, 02:12 PM

All just going to prove there are many reasons a person reacts to a thing in a certain way. All the haters ASSUME Brooks just didn't care, but there's no evidence of that. It's opinion, and short of asking Brooks there's no way to know, and I'll go way out on a limb and venture to say none of the people making those assumptions have ever had a conversation with Brooks - about that or about anything else.

MSFANBOY · 06-11-2010, 04:11 PM

Statistically speaking AB was a good quarterback and I think I'm choking as I type this but in my opinion a HOF demands more than stats. What about team spirit, leadership, community involvement? AB was a dufus at best. Brilliant one week and then couldn't find his arss with both hands the next. No, No, No, No!

foreverfan · 06-11-2010, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by MSFANBOY

Statistically speaking AB was a good quarterback and I think I'm choking as I type this but in my opinion a HOF demands more than stats. What about team spirit, leadership, community involvement? AB was a dufus at best. Brilliant one week and then couldn't find his arss with both hands the next. No, No, No, No!

Newbie...

saintfan · 06-11-2010, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by MSFANBOY

Statistically speaking AB was a good quarterback and I think I'm choking as I type this but in my opinion a HOF demands more than stats. What about team spirit, leadership, community involvement? AB was a dufus at best. Brilliant one week and then couldn't find his arss with both hands the next. No, No, No, No!

Welcome...you're wrong...but welcome anyway. LOL

Just kidding...kinda...

Brooks has the numbers
Brooks has the community involvement
Can't speak for or against his "team spirit", but a number of players came to his defense at times, both on the field and in the media

Ashley · 08-08-2012, 07:48 AM

No . He got a lot of garbage yards.

Mardigras9 · 08-08-2012, 08:32 AM

If you erase the last 6 years of success and had this arguement prior to the Brees/Payton era, the answer would be yes. Wasn't like we had them lining up in the successful column. It is hard to give him his credit because of the smiling on the sidelines when we were cussing. But his numbers as a saint QB (without the Brees factor) are enough to get him in the Saint HOF.

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06-10-2010, 07:44 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day? Originally Posted by foreverfan If ya scared call the law.

06-11-2010, 12:45 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day? Originally Posted by Saintfan At times, but I'm still not understanding how you can blame Brooks for our inability to stop a screen pass. Originally Posted by Blake6900 I thought I already answered this but I'll try again. The defense never gets to practice against the screen because the offense doesn't run it. Why doesn't the offense run it? For the reasons regarding Brooks that I've already stated. Look, I know the first team defense practices against second team offense for game plan purposes. But screens are pretty much Defense 101. Unless your team can't or won't run them. If your defense can't practice against quality play execution (screens, posts, etc.) your defense can't and won't be effective against those types of plays. If the Saints can't run a screen, how can they practice defending it? The defense probably looks great in practice against it. But against who is the real question. By game time, against teams that can run screens properly, the defense looks ineffective. There you go...I had to go find it. There is SO MUCH of this stuff in the archives. So, here we have this fellow attempting to establish that our defense's inability to stop a screen pass was because Brooks couldn't throw a screen pass. The Brooks haters will stop at NOTHING I tell ya...NOTHING.
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06-11-2010, 01:40 PM	#3
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day? Saw the exact same thing on a rerun of Everybody Loves Raymond just last night. Debra's parents were getting a divorce and Raymond couldn’t stop smiling about it, even when he knew how serious it was to Debra. Coincidence?

06-11-2010, 01:46 PM	#4
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day? My wife smiles when we get into arguments. It used to pi$$ me off! But it is a nervious reaction to anxity.

06-11-2010, 02:12 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day? All just going to prove there are many reasons a person reacts to a thing in a certain way. All the haters *ASSUME* Brooks just didn't care, but there's no evidence of that. It's opinion, and short of asking Brooks there's no way to know, and I'll go way out on a limb and venture to say none of the people making those assumptions have ever had a conversation with Brooks - about that or about anything else.

06-11-2010, 04:11 PM	#6
MSFANBOY Rookie Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3	Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day? Statistically speaking AB was a good quarterback and I think I'm choking as I type this but in my opinion a HOF demands more than stats. What about team spirit, leadership, community involvement? AB was a dufus at best. Brilliant one week and then couldn't find his arss with both hands the next. No, No, No, No! Halo likes this.
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06-11-2010, 04:46 PM	#7
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day? Originally Posted by MSFANBOY Statistically speaking AB was a good quarterback and I think I'm choking as I type this but in my opinion a HOF demands more than stats. What about team spirit, leadership, community involvement? AB was a dufus at best. Brilliant one week and then couldn't find his arss with both hands the next. No, No, No, No! Newbie...

06-11-2010, 04:56 PM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day? Originally Posted by MSFANBOY Statistically speaking AB was a good quarterback and I think I'm choking as I type this but in my opinion a HOF demands more than stats. What about team spirit, leadership, community involvement? AB was a dufus at best. Brilliant one week and then couldn't find his arss with both hands the next. No, No, No, No! Welcome...you're wrong...but welcome anyway. LOL Just kidding...kinda... Brooks has the numbers Brooks has the community involvement Can't speak for or against his "team spirit", but a number of players came to his defense at times, both on the field and in the media

08-08-2012, 07:48 AM	#9
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	No . He got a lot of garbage yards.

08-08-2012, 08:32 AM	#10
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	If you erase the last 6 years of success and had this arguement prior to the Brees/Payton era, the answer would be yes. Wasn't like we had them lining up in the successful column. It is hard to give him his credit because of the smiling on the sidelines when we were cussing. But his numbers as a saint QB (without the Brees factor) are enough to get him in the Saint HOF.

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