Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal

CantonLegend · 06-21-2010, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

You know, I don't understand this infatuation with Brown, from some of the fans on here. He hasn't played a game, since 08, what exactly makes this guy so irreplaceable? Our best offensive lineman? With Bushrod last year, the Saints gave up the fewest sacks in the league I do believe. While leading the number one offense to a superbowl win. When we were discussing the re-signing of Sharper, people were jumping on him with both feet in here, calling him old and greedy, and "re-placeable", while sitting in the Jammal Brown section, talking about what a great player he is, and how we should keep him, no matter what the cost. DIDN'T PLAY THE ENTIRE SUPERBOWL SEASON, but he is the best o-linemen on the team. Am I the only one that finds this reasoning completely ludicrous? Good riddance, good bye Brown, and have a nice life. Should have been done before the draft this year.

just as ludicrous as saying we are better without him because we won the super bowl without him......or saying that bushrod is better and can carry his own weight because our offensive line as a whole gave up the fewest sacks in the league

neither of those arguments make any sense

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Exactly. Bushrod had ONE bad game, against the cowboys, and now he's not as good as Brown? Give me a break.

one bad game? nearly half of the sacks our offensive line gave up were from bushrod and several of the tackles for loss that we had were his fault as well

there isnt a single thing bushrod does better than brown and we are going to be hurting at tackle this season because of ignorance and lack of talent

voodooido · 06-21-2010, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

just as ludicrous as saying we are better without him because we won the super bowl without him......or saying that bushrod is better and can carry his own weight because our offensive line as a whole gave up the fewest sacks in the league

neither of those arguments make any sense

one bad game? nearly half of the sacks our offensive line gave up were from bushrod and several of the tackles for loss that we had were his fault as well

there isnt a single thing bushrod does better than brown and we are going to be hurting at tackle this season because of ignorance and lack of talent

Ok Canton, Shut up after seeing these stats. Get off your knees and stop the Brown worshiping.

Between the Lines: Sacks Allowed, Team By Team -- NFL FanHouse

try reading stats before opening your mouth

CantonLegend · 06-21-2010, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Ok Canton, Shut up after seeing these stats. Get off your knees and stop the Brown worshiping.

Between the Lines: Sacks Allowed, Team By Team -- NFL FanHouse

try reading stats before opening your mouth

lol as the sole supporter of brown i feel like my past posts have spoken for themselves

Not all of a teams sacks are included here, as many sacks can not be blamed on any offensive lineman but on the quarterback or the play call.

sacks are credited to linemen.....not QBs....if bushrods guy tackled the QB then its a sack credited to the lineman....however, this website admits having a bias in counting stats by claiming that it is the QB who was responsible

you are going to tell me that the QB with the quickest release in the NFL is responsible for bushrod's guy hitting him?

go find me another link to prove your point cuz that one didnt work

oh yea and bushrod was credited with allowing 7.5 or 8 sacks this season dependin on how you count the game

as for holding penalties and false starts? thats one thing i would like to find out cuz i havent been able to find them yet

voodooido · 06-21-2010, 03:22 PM

5.5 sacks. Brown in his all pro year allowed 4. I bet Brown had ALOT more holds and false starts. Ill find them

CantonLegend · 06-21-2010, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

5.5 sacks. Brown in his all pro year allowed 4. I bet Brown had ALOT more holds and false starts. Ill find them

hey guess what....i just told you that bushrod allowed 7.5 sacks last season....nearly half of what our entire team allowed

that article you posted is complete bs because the author even stated that some of the sacks he didnt credit to the offensive linemen....so really its at his own discretion how many sacks each player allowed and not an actual tally of statistics

Not all of a teams sacks are included here, as many sacks can not be blamed on any offensive lineman but on the quarterback or the play call.

direct quote from the article you posted

voodooido · 06-22-2010, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

hey guess what....i just told you that bushrod allowed 7.5 sacks last season....nearly half of what our entire team allowed

that article you posted is complete bs because the author even stated that some of the sacks he didnt credit to the offensive linemen....so really its at his own discretion how many sacks each player allowed and not an actual tally of statistics

direct quote from the article you posted

dude you are a freaking joke. You asked for stats, I gave you stats. You say you dont believe them. LOL what a freaking joke. Lt me guess, you still believe in Obama too?

CantonLegend · 06-22-2010, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

dude you are a freaking joke. You asked for stats, I gave you stats. You say you dont believe them. LOL what a freaking joke. Lt me guess, you still believe in Obama too?

its not that i didnt believe them......its that they are made up

the author admitted that he threw out sacks that he thought were caused by the QB.......so every sack that he counted was at his own discretion and not the actual statistic

as far as politics? wtf does it matter what i think about politics

ru asking me if i believe in a president who has been in office only 1 year and is expected to turn around an economy that was in shambles well before his tenure? why the **** do you care?

strato · 06-22-2010, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

dude you are a freaking joke. You asked for stats, I gave you stats. You say you dont believe them. LOL what a freaking joke. Lt me guess, you still believe in Obama too?

Some people never learn do they?

CantonLegend · 06-21-2010, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Ok Canton, Shut up after seeing these stats. Get off your knees and stop the Brown worshiping.

Between the Lines: Sacks Allowed, Team By Team -- NFL FanHouse

try reading stats before opening your mouth

and who is this fellow?

Justin Smiley NO 1 3

dont remember him playing for new orleans at all this season.....oh thats right.....he didnt

this article isnt credible at all

06-21-2010, 08:53 AM	#1
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by saintpaul25 You know, I don't understand this infatuation with Brown, from some of the fans on here. He hasn't played a game, since 08, what exactly makes this guy so irreplaceable? Our best offensive lineman? With Bushrod last year, the Saints gave up the fewest sacks in the league I do believe. While leading the number one offense to a superbowl win. When we were discussing the re-signing of Sharper, people were jumping on him with both feet in here, calling him old and greedy, and "re-placeable", while sitting in the Jammal Brown section, talking about what a great player he is, and how we should keep him, no matter what the cost. DIDN'T PLAY THE ENTIRE SUPERBOWL SEASON, but he is the best o-linemen on the team. Am I the only one that finds this reasoning completely ludicrous? Good riddance, good bye Brown, and have a nice life. Should have been done before the draft this year. just as ludicrous as saying we are better without him because we won the super bowl without him......or saying that bushrod is better and can carry his own weight because our offensive line as a whole gave up the fewest sacks in the league neither of those arguments make any sense Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Exactly. Bushrod had ONE bad game, against the cowboys, and now he's not as good as Brown? Give me a break. one bad game? nearly half of the sacks our offensive line gave up were from bushrod and several of the tackles for loss that we had were his fault as well there isnt a single thing bushrod does better than brown and we are going to be hurting at tackle this season because of ignorance and lack of talent
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

06-21-2010, 01:39 PM	#2
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,840	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by CantonLegend just as ludicrous as saying we are better without him because we won the super bowl without him......or saying that bushrod is better and can carry his own weight because our offensive line as a whole gave up the fewest sacks in the league neither of those arguments make any sense one bad game? nearly half of the sacks our offensive line gave up were from bushrod and several of the tackles for loss that we had were his fault as well there isnt a single thing bushrod does better than brown and we are going to be hurting at tackle this season because of ignorance and lack of talent Ok Canton, Shut up after seeing these stats. Get off your knees and stop the Brown worshiping. Between the Lines: Sacks Allowed, Team By Team -- NFL FanHouse try reading stats before opening your mouth
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06-21-2010, 02:50 PM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by voodooido Ok Canton, Shut up after seeing these stats. Get off your knees and stop the Brown worshiping. Between the Lines: Sacks Allowed, Team By Team -- NFL FanHouse try reading stats before opening your mouth lol as the sole supporter of brown i feel like my past posts have spoken for themselves Not all of a teams sacks are included here, as many sacks can not be blamed on any offensive lineman but on the quarterback or the play call. sacks are credited to linemen.....not QBs....if bushrods guy tackled the QB then its a sack credited to the lineman....however, this website admits having a bias in counting stats by claiming that it is the QB who was responsible you are going to tell me that the QB with the quickest release in the NFL is responsible for bushrod's guy hitting him? go find me another link to prove your point cuz that one didnt work oh yea and bushrod was credited with allowing 7.5 or 8 sacks this season dependin on how you count the game as for holding penalties and false starts? thats one thing i would like to find out cuz i havent been able to find them yet
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

06-21-2010, 03:22 PM	#4
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,840	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal 5.5 sacks. Brown in his all pro year allowed 4. I bet Brown had ALOT more holds and false starts. Ill find them
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06-21-2010, 04:08 PM	#5
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by voodooido 5.5 sacks. Brown in his all pro year allowed 4. I bet Brown had ALOT more holds and false starts. Ill find them hey guess what....i just told you that bushrod allowed 7.5 sacks last season....nearly half of what our entire team allowed that article you posted is complete bs because the author even stated that some of the sacks he didnt credit to the offensive linemen....so really its at his own discretion how many sacks each player allowed and not an actual tally of statistics Not all of a teams sacks are included here, as many sacks can not be blamed on any offensive lineman but on the quarterback or the play call. direct quote from the article you posted

06-22-2010, 02:40 PM	#6
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,840	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by CantonLegend hey guess what....i just told you that bushrod allowed 7.5 sacks last season....nearly half of what our entire team allowed that article you posted is complete bs because the author even stated that some of the sacks he didnt credit to the offensive linemen....so really its at his own discretion how many sacks each player allowed and not an actual tally of statistics direct quote from the article you posted dude you are a freaking joke. You asked for stats, I gave you stats. You say you dont believe them. LOL what a freaking joke. Lt me guess, you still believe in Obama too?
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06-22-2010, 04:04 PM	#7
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by voodooido dude you are a freaking joke. You asked for stats, I gave you stats. You say you dont believe them. LOL what a freaking joke. Lt me guess, you still believe in Obama too? its not that i didnt believe them......its that they are made up the author admitted that he threw out sacks that he thought were caused by the QB.......so every sack that he counted was at his own discretion and not the actual statistic as far as politics? wtf does it matter what i think about politics ru asking me if i believe in a president who has been in office only 1 year and is expected to turn around an economy that was in shambles well before his tenure? why the **** do you care?

06-22-2010, 11:44 PM	#8
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by voodooido dude you are a freaking joke. You asked for stats, I gave you stats. You say you dont believe them. LOL what a freaking joke. Lt me guess, you still believe in Obama too? Some people never learn do they?

06-21-2010, 04:21 PM	#9
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints, Redskins agree on Brown deal Originally Posted by voodooido Ok Canton, Shut up after seeing these stats. Get off your knees and stop the Brown worshiping. Between the Lines: Sacks Allowed, Team By Team -- NFL FanHouse try reading stats before opening your mouth and who is this fellow? Justin Smiley NO 1 3 dont remember him playing for new orleans at all this season.....oh thats right.....he didnt this article isnt credible at all

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