Saints Defense Top 10?

nutria · 09-14-2010, 07:29 AM

A look at the Ravens and Jets defense against the run and you can see we are not in the same universe as them on defense, but of course, on offense there is no comparison. We will be between 15th and 20th at seasons end.

VillainAgain · 09-14-2010, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by nutria

A look at the Ravens and Jets defense against the run and you can see we are not in the same universe as them on defense, but of course, on offense there is no comparison. We will be between 15th and 20th at seasons end.

Ravens and Jets overload blitz almost ever play if u throw 8 in th box with a delayed blitz from the SS you'd crush run plays often as well

darstep · 09-14-2010, 07:36 AM

The offense didn't score 30, yet we won the game. The defense did its job Thursday night: 9/10 points, Farve 171, Peterson 87 with a long of 14. I'll take it every time we have to face the Vikes. That's the key, every week they have to take care of the task at hand. Running team or passing team they simply have to get it done that day or that night. If the offense gives them a 3 possession lead, then teir job gets easier.

Rugby Saint II · 09-14-2010, 01:36 PM

We'll have an above average defense and the top offense which I think is the same recipe we used to get to the Super Bowl last year. On defense we should be a little better than last year, but not much better. Our first rounder went to strengthening an already solid group of corners. We won't be that much better until we get another strong DT and another LBer.jmo

VillainAgain · 09-14-2010, 05:22 PM

I say Yes we do have a top 10 defense we will finish 4th in total defense!!! would be higher if our pup(s) were healthy, CBs are almost completely shut down guys (Bernard Berrian is fast as hell, he didnt exist Thursday) just gotta get better at shifting coverage on crossing routes with the LBs an Harper. Remi Ayodelle looks alot larger this year hes doin pretty well so far pwned Hutchinson on multiple playes Sed Ellis is the real deal hes blowin through the OL hopefully he keeps it up and channels his inner Norman Hand (RIP)

neugey · 09-14-2010, 09:06 PM

I can't confidently say that there are 10 defenses in the NFL better that are better the Saints ... so thinking positively I voted "Yes" on this poll

strato · 09-15-2010, 01:22 AM

Ghey

foreverfan · 09-15-2010, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by strato

Ghey

Brilliant commentary.

pherein · 09-15-2010, 08:29 AM

According to good statistics we were a #14 defense when healthy last year.
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2009 DEFENSE EFFICIENCY RATINGS

So I can see us moving up 4-6 spots with a 2nd year of GW.

the-commish · 09-16-2010, 04:47 PM

I think this D can be a Top 10 or Top 12 defense. I especially liked Gregg Williams using a lot of 3-4 in the Vikings game, something the Vikes were totally unprepared for (especially LBs dropping back in coverage, and not blitzing a lot).

And with Williams' exotic schemes meant to confuse rival offenses (3-3-5, Buddy Ryan's old 46, standard 4-3, and a 4-4-3--playing the SS Harper in a LB configuration) Williams has multiple ways of doing that. And a blitz could come from anywhere (LB, CB, or S, or any combination thereof). Or they could all drop back into coverage, depending on the offense. At last count, Williams said he had 29 different personnel and alignment variations he could use on D.

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09-14-2010, 05:32 PM	#2
VillainAgain 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 273	Originally Posted by nutria A look at the Ravens and Jets defense against the run and you can see we are not in the same universe as them on defense, but of course, on offense there is no comparison. We will be between 15th and 20th at seasons end. Ravens and Jets overload blitz almost ever play if u throw 8 in th box with a delayed blitz from the SS you'd crush run plays often as well
VillainAgain 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 273

09-14-2010, 05:22 PM	#5
VillainAgain 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 273	I say Yes we do have a top 10 defense we will finish 4th in total defense!!! would be higher if our pup(s) were healthy, CBs are almost completely shut down guys (Bernard Berrian is fast as hell, he didnt exist Thursday) just gotta get better at shifting coverage on crossing routes with the LBs an Harper. Remi Ayodelle looks alot larger this year hes doin pretty well so far pwned Hutchinson on multiple playes Sed Ellis is the real deal hes blowin through the OL hopefully he keeps it up and channels his inner Norman Hand (RIP)
VillainAgain 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 273	Last edited by VillainAgain; 09-14-2010 at 05:26 PM..

09-15-2010, 07:20 AM	#8
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by strato Ghey Brilliant commentary.

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09-14-2010, 07:29 AM	#1
nutria Sac-A-Lait Join Date: May 2006 Location: Prairieville, LA Posts: 262	A look at the Ravens and Jets defense against the run and you can see we are not in the same universe as them on defense, but of course, on offense there is no comparison. We will be between 15th and 20th at seasons end.

09-14-2010, 07:36 AM	#3
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	The offense didn't score 30, yet we won the game. The defense did its job Thursday night: 9/10 points, Farve 171, Peterson 87 with a long of 14. I'll take it every time we have to face the Vikes. That's the key, every week they have to take care of the task at hand. Running team or passing team they simply have to get it done that day or that night. If the offense gives them a 3 possession lead, then teir job gets easier.

09-14-2010, 01:36 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	We'll have an above average defense and the top offense which I think is the same recipe we used to get to the Super Bowl last year. On defense we should be a little better than last year, but not much better. Our first rounder went to strengthening an already solid group of corners. We won't be that much better until we get another strong DT and another LBer.jmo

09-14-2010, 09:06 PM	#6
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	I can't confidently say that there are 10 defenses in the NFL better that are better the Saints ... so thinking positively I voted "Yes" on this poll

09-15-2010, 01:22 AM	#7
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Ghey

09-15-2010, 08:29 AM	#9
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	According to good statistics we were a #14 defense when healthy last year. FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis \| 2009 DEFENSE EFFICIENCY RATINGS So I can see us moving up 4-6 spots with a 2nd year of GW.

09-16-2010, 04:47 PM	#10
the-commish Longtime WhoDat Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 529	I think this D can be a Top 10 or Top 12 defense. I especially liked Gregg Williams using a lot of 3-4 in the Vikings game, something the Vikes were totally unprepared for (especially LBs dropping back in coverage, and not blitzing a lot). And with Williams' exotic schemes meant to confuse rival offenses (3-3-5, Buddy Ryan's old 46, standard 4-3, and a 4-4-3--playing the SS Harper in a LB configuration) Williams has multiple ways of doing that. And a blitz could come from anywhere (LB, CB, or S, or any combination thereof). Or they could all drop back into coverage, depending on the offense. At last count, Williams said he had 29 different personnel and alignment variations he could use on D.