Looking at Atlanta through a clear lens

TheOak · 12-23-2010, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by papz

All that's being said is that right now they're the better football team than us

With all due respect... You realize you just pretty much quoted 504 in his farewell thread?

I made this thread yesterday and logged out. Never expecting to log in today and feel like I was surrounded by Atlanta Fans. Caddieman does not need to reply, it was done for him.

CashAndFlash · 12-23-2010, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

With all due respect... You realize you just pretty much quoted 504 in his farewell thread?

I made this thread yesterday and logged out. Never expecting to log in today and feel like I was surrounded by Atlanta Fans. Caddieman does not need to reply, it was done for him.

In other news, there's a sudden upsurge in Chris Farley references... good things are on the horizon.

skymike · 12-23-2010, 08:15 AM

self edit due to threadjack.

I do wonder how this conversation would be going if Hartley makes that 12 yard FG back in October.

Beastmode · 12-23-2010, 05:50 AM

Game to game comparisons are a flawed way of looking at the NFL but everybody does it including me. Case in point, there is a thread showing a circle of all the teams. Every team has lost to someone the other team beat. My point is there are way to many variables to compare W and L's as to which teams are good and which are bad. Most would say the Browns aren't that good this year but they sure were good enought to beat the Pats and Saints.

skymike · 12-23-2010, 07:22 AM

nyaaa, Papz is right, Naam. We gotta start thinking more reliferously, less in the abstract. You know the ancient Mesopotamians vastly underestimated the Medo-Persians, resulting in aaah... premature demise... and such...

(sigh.) I've a fool, Cliff. All this "go team, yea team rah rah." Why dont we just admit we're homers, and we dont know what we're talking about.

Yeah, old buddy, I know its time we faced the facts.
Lets put our pencils to work, and come up with a reasoned,
realistic assessment of our basic situation.

Cliff, you're an accidental genious. That plan is so crazy it has to work. I know just the guys to ask...

skymike · 12-23-2010, 07:27 AM

You want us to look at this thru a clear lens? ok, I think we can do it.

ehhh...

---Saints Beat Falcons in a Rout!

Da Saints!!!!!

Houston Area Fans: Come watch the Saints Kick the Falcons with me, SuperDome, and the Hou-Dats gang Monday night at Ragin Cajun/ Westheimer @ Gessner.

They're doing a bunch of specials just for us, we get our own section, and I'm bringing the zydeco, jazz, WhoDat tunes, and some special surprises. You wear your black and gold, bring your Saints stuff, and raise hell.

See yall monday night. details here:

http://blackandgold.com/saints/30836-houston-area-fans-show-our-strength-5.html

papz · 12-23-2010, 08:06 AM

I was off to work so I couldn't respond to your post earlier... which would have taken a little more time.

When you think Top QB, what name comes to mind?
When you think high powered high scoring Offense, what comes to mind?
When you think dominate Defense, what comes to mind?
"" amazing special teams?
"" head coach you do not want to face?
Not sure about you, but nothing "Atlanta" comes into my mind when i ask my self those questions.

And when you compare them to us with those questions, it just makes it more impressive that they're doing more with less. It shows you don't have to have the elite quarterback, elite defense, yadda yadda yadda, to play damn good football... which they are at the moment. Individual statistics and rankings don't mean jack squat when a team is sitting at home with all those accolades with another football team playing in the Superbowl.

With all due respect... You realize you just pretty much quoted 504 in his farewell thread?

I didn't read the thread as I was out of town all weekend, but if he said that, I don't see anything wrong with it. I believe he's been banned for a week, and trust me... that wasn't what got him banned. It's been an accumulation of things that resulted in that.

I made this thread yesterday and logged out. Never expecting to log in today and feel like I was surrounded by Atlanta Fans. Caddieman does not need to reply, it was done for him.

You check how long some of us have been posting on this site... it's quite obvious we're all Falcon fans. The difference btw some of us and yourself, we aren't biased. I don't have to like them to to be logical and realistic.

As far Caddieman... give the man his troll break. Their play speaks for itself... until we beat them this Sunday.

CashAndFlash · 12-23-2010, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I was off to work so I couldn't respond to your post earlier... which would have taken a little more time.

And when you compare them to us with those questions, it just makes it more impressive that they're doing more with less. It shows you don't have to have the elite quarterback, elite defense, yadda yadda yadda, to play damn good football... which they are at the moment. Individual statistics and rankings don't mean jack squat when a team is sitting at home with all those accolades with another football team playing in the Superbowl.

I didn't read the thread as I was out of town all weekend, but if he said that, I don't see anything wrong with it. I believe he's been banned for a week, and trust me... that wasn't what got him banned. It's been an accumulation of things that resulted in that.

You check how long some of us have been posting on this site... it's quite obvious we're all Falcon fans. The difference btw some of us and yourself, we aren't biased. I don't have to like them to to be logical and realistic.

As far Caddieman... give the man his troll break. Their play speaks for itself... until we beat them this Sunday.

I realize I'm still a relative newbie here new papz, but I have to disagree. When I watch the Falcons play, all I see is a house of cards. "You are what your record is" isn't nearly as convincing as "he with the ring, rules them all".

edit: oh, and what got him banned was that he called out Halo... told him he shouldn't be a mod. the dude's a fool.

foreverfan · 12-23-2010, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by CashAndFlash

In other news, there's a sudden upsurge in Chris Farley references... good things are on the horizon.

papz · 12-23-2010, 08:17 AM

Cash, I agree... he with the ring rules them all. None of us have that ring right now, but you've got to win football games to get there. And because of their record, a first round bye along with HFA is possible; therefore creating less obstacles and increasing their chances over ours to getting to the promise land. I wasn't solely basing my argument on the fact they have a better record than ours. It based on a combination of that, beating us, having a well balanced team, along with very skilled position players.

12-23-2010, 07:32 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Originally Posted by papz All that's being said is that right now they're the better football team than us With all due respect... You realize you just pretty much quoted 504 in his farewell thread? I made this thread yesterday and logged out. Never expecting to log in today and feel like I was surrounded by Atlanta Fans. Caddieman does not need to reply, it was done for him.

12-23-2010, 07:55 AM	#2
CashAndFlash Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 30 miles from Paradis Posts: 602 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by x626xBlack With all due respect... You realize you just pretty much quoted 504 in his farewell thread? I made this thread yesterday and logged out. Never expecting to log in today and feel like I was surrounded by Atlanta Fans. Caddieman does not need to reply, it was done for him. In other news, there's a sudden upsurge in Chris Farley references... good things are on the horizon.

12-23-2010, 08:15 AM	#3
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	self edit due to threadjack. I do wonder how this conversation would be going if Hartley makes that 12 yard FG back in October.
	Last edited by skymike; 12-23-2010 at 08:26 AM..

12-23-2010, 05:50 AM	#4
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Game to game comparisons are a flawed way of looking at the NFL but everybody does it including me. Case in point, there is a thread showing a circle of all the teams. Every team has lost to someone the other team beat. My point is there are way to many variables to compare W and L's as to which teams are good and which are bad. Most would say the Browns aren't that good this year but they sure were good enought to beat the Pats and Saints.
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126

12-23-2010, 07:27 AM	#6
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	You want us to look at this thru a clear lens? ok, I think we can do it. ehhh... ---Saints Beat Falcons in a Rout! Da Saints!!!!! Houston Area Fans: Come watch the Saints Kick the Falcons with me, SuperDome, and the Hou-Dats gang Monday night at Ragin Cajun/ Westheimer @ Gessner. They're doing a bunch of specials just for us, we get our own section, and I'm bringing the zydeco, jazz, WhoDat tunes, and some special surprises. You wear your black and gold, bring your Saints stuff, and raise hell. See yall monday night. details here: http://blackandgold.com/saints/30836-houston-area-fans-show-our-strength-5.html
	Last edited by skymike; 12-23-2010 at 07:51 AM..

12-23-2010, 07:22 AM	#5
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	nyaaa, Papz is right, Naam. We gotta start thinking more reliferously, less in the abstract. You know the ancient Mesopotamians vastly underestimated the Medo-Persians, resulting in aaah... premature demise... and such... (sigh.) I've a fool, Cliff. All this "go team, yea team rah rah." Why dont we just admit we're homers, and we dont know what we're talking about. Yeah, old buddy, I know its time we faced the facts. Lets put our pencils to work, and come up with a reasoned, realistic assessment of our basic situation. Cliff, you're an accidental genious. That plan is so crazy it has to work. I know just the guys to ask...

12-23-2010, 08:06 AM	#7
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	I was off to work so I couldn't respond to your post earlier... which would have taken a little more time. When you think Top QB, what name comes to mind? When you think high powered high scoring Offense, what comes to mind? When you think dominate Defense, what comes to mind? "" amazing special teams? "" head coach you do not want to face? Not sure about you, but nothing "Atlanta" comes into my mind when i ask my self those questions. And when you compare them to us with those questions, it just makes it more impressive that they're doing more with less. It shows you don't have to have the elite quarterback, elite defense, yadda yadda yadda, to play damn good football... which they are at the moment. Individual statistics and rankings don't mean jack squat when a team is sitting at home with all those accolades with another football team playing in the Superbowl. With all due respect... You realize you just pretty much quoted 504 in his farewell thread? I didn't read the thread as I was out of town all weekend, but if he said that, I don't see anything wrong with it. I believe he's been banned for a week, and trust me... that wasn't what got him banned. It's been an accumulation of things that resulted in that. I made this thread yesterday and logged out. Never expecting to log in today and feel like I was surrounded by Atlanta Fans. Caddieman does not need to reply, it was done for him. You check how long some of us have been posting on this site... it's quite obvious we're all Falcon fans. The difference btw some of us and yourself, we aren't biased. I don't have to like them to to be logical and realistic. As far Caddieman... give the man his troll break. Their play speaks for itself... until we beat them this Sunday.
	Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. All little common sense goes a long way.

12-23-2010, 08:11 AM	#8
CashAndFlash Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 30 miles from Paradis Posts: 602 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by papz I was off to work so I couldn't respond to your post earlier... which would have taken a little more time. And when you compare them to us with those questions, it just makes it more impressive that they're doing more with less. It shows you don't have to have the elite quarterback, elite defense, yadda yadda yadda, to play damn good football... which they are at the moment. Individual statistics and rankings don't mean jack squat when a team is sitting at home with all those accolades with another football team playing in the Superbowl. I didn't read the thread as I was out of town all weekend, but if he said that, I don't see anything wrong with it. I believe he's been banned for a week, and trust me... that wasn't what got him banned. It's been an accumulation of things that resulted in that. You check how long some of us have been posting on this site... it's quite obvious we're all Falcon fans. The difference btw some of us and yourself, we aren't biased. I don't have to like them to to be logical and realistic. As far Caddieman... give the man his troll break. Their play speaks for itself... until we beat them this Sunday. I realize I'm still a relative newbie here new papz, but I have to disagree. When I watch the Falcons play, all I see is a house of cards. "You are what your record is" isn't nearly as convincing as "he with the ring, rules them all". edit: oh, and what got him banned was that he called out Halo... told him he shouldn't be a mod. the dude's a fool.
	Last edited by CashAndFlash; 12-23-2010 at 08:16 AM..

12-23-2010, 08:11 AM	#9
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by CashAndFlash In other news, there's a sudden upsurge in Chris Farley references... good things are on the horizon.
	Last edited by foreverfan; 12-23-2010 at 08:24 AM..

12-23-2010, 08:17 AM	#10
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Cash, I agree... he with the ring rules them all. None of us have that ring right now, but you've got to win football games to get there. And because of their record, a first round bye along with HFA is possible; therefore creating less obstacles and increasing their chances over ours to getting to the promise land. I wasn't solely basing my argument on the fact they have a better record than ours. It based on a combination of that, beating us, having a well balanced team, along with very skilled position players.

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