NFL's profitability data offer rejected

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A person familiar with the negotiations tells The Associated Press that the NFL offered to turn over five years of profitability data to the players' union - an offer that was rejected.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity Wednesday because the mediator overseeing the labor talks has told participants to not discuss details publicly.

According to the person who spoke to the AP, the NFL's proposal to the union included:

audited league-wide profitability data from 2005-09;
the number of teams that have seen a shift in profitability in that span;
an independent auditor to examine the data.

The NFL Players Association has long demanded that the league give it full access to financial data. The union didn't immediately respond to requests for comment.

"We've made more information available in the course of this negotiation than has ever been made available in decades of collective bargaining with the NFLPA," Pash said. "Far more information. And we've offered to make even more information (available), including information that we do not disclose to our own clubs."

The current collective bargaining agreement was set to expire last week, but two extensions now have pushed the cutoff to the end of Friday.

Although progress has been made, both sides have stuck to their stances when it comes to two central issues: The NFLPA has not agreed to any major economic concessions; the NFL has not agreed to the union's long-held demand that the league completely open its books.

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saintfan · 03-09-2011, 12:44 PM

Interesting. Very interesting indeed...

Beastmode · 03-09-2011, 12:48 PM

The owners are not required by law to justify why players salaries are going to be cut. End of story. The PA needs to let this issue go because they will never win. It doesn't matter what the owners make. They can do whatever they want. If they want more of the profits then it's their right.

SapperSaint · 03-09-2011, 02:28 PM

It really seems as though neither side wants this to work.

To the Players;

You are EMPLOYEES, NOT EMPLOYERS. No employee is allowed to demand to see the "Books" of the company it works for. Stop dragging this out and work on what YOU as PLAYERS said you wanted fixed and quit digging up more and more BS.

Beastmode · 03-09-2011, 08:20 PM

Even if the NFL disclosed everything it would not matter. It would be like the employee at Taco Bell telling the owner hey, you make a lot more money than I thought. Give me some of that. The owner would simply tell him to leave his uniform and get out.

Crusader · 03-10-2011, 06:11 AM

I agree with you guys. Thre are a ton of guys out there who would gladly take the place of the current players in the NFL, for half the price.

SapperSaint · 03-10-2011, 07:30 AM

If the players don't watch out, the fans are going to turn them into the bad guys in this deal.

Crusader · 03-10-2011, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

If the players don't watch out, the fans are going to turn them into the bad guys in this deal.

I already do that. Not that I don't think the players should get paid well, but they are paid well already. All of them.

foreverfan · 03-10-2011, 08:26 AM

I just want less commercials.

SapperSaint · 03-10-2011, 01:05 PM

I wanna meet your Avatar, FF. And talk about CBA issues personally.

03-09-2011, 11:12 AM	#1
Threaded by Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,565 Blog Entries: 45 Rating: (0 votes - average) A person familiar with the negotiations tells The Associated Press that the NFL offered to turn over five years of profitability data to the players' union - an offer that was rejected. The person spoke on condition of anonymity Wednesday because the mediator overseeing the labor talks has told participants to not discuss details publicly. According to the person who spoke to the AP, the NFL's proposal to the union included: audited league-wide profitability data from 2005-09; the number of teams that have seen a shift in profitability in that span; an independent auditor to examine the data. The NFL Players Association has long demanded that the league give it full access to financial data. The union didn't immediately respond to requests for comment. "We've made more information available in the course of this negotiation than has ever been made available in decades of collective bargaining with the NFLPA," Pash said. "Far more information. And we've offered to make even more information (available), including information that we do not disclose to our own clubs." The current collective bargaining agreement was set to expire last week, but two extensions now have pushed the cutoff to the end of Friday. Although progress has been made, both sides have stuck to their stances when it comes to two central issues: The NFLPA has not agreed to any major economic concessions; the NFL has not agreed to the union's long-held demand that the league completely open its books. READ FULL STORY AT NEWORLEANS.COM Attached Thumbnails
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	The owners are not required by law to justify why players salaries are going to be cut. End of story. The PA needs to let this issue go because they will never win. It doesn't matter what the owners make. They can do whatever they want. If they want more of the profits then it's their right.
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Even if the NFL disclosed everything it would not matter. It would be like the employee at Taco Bell telling the owner hey, you make a lot more money than I thought. Give me some of that. The owner would simply tell him to leave his uniform and get out.
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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,017	Originally Posted by SapperSaint If the players don't watch out, the fans are going to turn them into the bad guys in this deal. I already do that. Not that I don't think the players should get paid well, but they are paid well already. All of them.

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SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	It really seems as though neither side wants this to work. To the Players; You are EMPLOYEES, NOT EMPLOYERS. No employee is allowed to demand to see the "Books" of the company it works for. Stop dragging this out and work on what YOU as PLAYERS said you wanted fixed and quit digging up more and more BS.

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SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	If the players don't watch out, the fans are going to turn them into the bad guys in this deal.

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SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	I wanna meet your Avatar, FF. And talk about CBA issues personally.