NFL's profitability data offer rejected

Crusader · 03-11-2011, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I've never been in that position but I understand your point. My postion on it is to never let myself get into that position. Find a niche on the side and never let one person or company decide your fate.

These players should focus on life after football since the average NFL career is 2 years. They make good money but it's not that much over the course of a lifetime if that's all you ever did. The only thing I'm with them on is the 18 game schedule and lingering medical concerns. Nobody wants the 18 games except for the owners and if they have lingering medical isssues the NFL needs to take care of them. If the owners want more of the profits then so be it, just take care of these guys when they are in pain after football. They have plenty of money to make that a reality.

Most everyone of the players has gotten a top-notch college education paid because of football. They should all be fine after their playing career. There can't be the owners responsibility to pay somebody money enough to last a lifetime?

Saint_LB · 03-13-2011, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

. Nobody wants the 18 games except for the owners

That is not true. I want 18 games. I could live with 16 if they cut out 2 preseason games, but they are never gonna do that. I just can't believe that the players are being such crybabies over 2 more games. Baseball players play 162 games. I know football is a rougher sport, but not by 146 games. I mean...seriously. Would you rather play 18 games of football for megabucks or 162 games of baseball. To me, it's a no-brainer.

Danno · 03-13-2011, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

That is not true. I want 18 games. I could live with 16 if they cut out 2 preseason games, but they are never gonna do that. I just can't believe that the players are being such crybabies over 2 more games. Baseball players play 162 games. I know football is a rougher sport, but not by 146 games. I mean...seriously. Would you rather play 18 games of football for megabucks or 162 games of baseball. To me, it's a no-brainer.

Agreed. I wanted 18 games too, with other concessions like 2 bye weeks, 4 and 8 week IR's, increased roster sizes, more two-team training camps, less off-season OTA's, mandatory safety equipment, more safety equipment R&D etc...

lynwood · 03-10-2011, 10:58 PM

Yeah I have to agree that if the players don't watch out they will be he bad guys. Imagine yourself as an Owner of a business and being told/demanded by your employees to show them the books and to pay them more even though they make a hell of a lot more than the people packing the stadiums. The more I thik about It the more I'm starting to dislike unions or collective bargining. Owners cold just fire all the players and start over with fresh college grads and go with half of what the current players are asking for and come out winners.

st thomas · 03-12-2011, 01:51 PM

theres more than a handfull of players that are at the end of there carreers and hoping to nail a year or 2 of good money in the bank. but if this thing drags they will lose that one last lick and there careers are over. watch out guys

dasaints26 · 03-13-2011, 03:49 PM

Just wonder if we could use any similarities between the NFL and the teachers in Wisc. The teachers have a good union and still they have to give back a % of their pay. Would you rather be a teacher losing 20% of your pay or a QB losing 20% of your pay? Sure would suck losing 20% of an 8 million dollar contract but it would suck more losing 20% of a 40000 salary.

Wonder why that state would only pick the teachers to cut benefits for. Would be less of a cut if they cut everyones benefit that was a state employee. I wonder if the politicians ever considered cutting their own benefits along with the teachers.

st thomas · 03-13-2011, 06:33 PM

they should have busted the unions years ago put limits on salarys years ago with yearly cost of living raises years ago. football would still be the same today, most popular sport. this is sucking royal pains in the butts

jeanpierre · 03-13-2011, 10:08 PM

This mess was created by Paul Tagliabue's inability to grow a pair...

Inmates have been running the asylum and now we are seeing the bill come due...

Oh, I want Iceshack to bring back his polarbear avatar and FFan to disclose who the avatar is along with a facebook link...

iceshack149 · 03-15-2011, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

This mess was created by Paul Tagliabue's inability to grow a pair...

Inmates have been running the asylum and now we are seeing the bill come due...

Oh, I want Iceshack to bring back his polarbear avatar and FFan to disclose who the avatar is along with a facebook link...

OK. I'll bring it back, JP.

03-11-2011, 05:01 AM	#1
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,049	Originally Posted by Beastmode I've never been in that position but I understand your point. My postion on it is to never let myself get into that position. Find a niche on the side and never let one person or company decide your fate. These players should focus on life after football since the average NFL career is 2 years. They make good money but it's not that much over the course of a lifetime if that's all you ever did. The only thing I'm with them on is the 18 game schedule and lingering medical concerns. Nobody wants the 18 games except for the owners and if they have lingering medical isssues the NFL needs to take care of them. If the owners want more of the profits then so be it, just take care of these guys when they are in pain after football. They have plenty of money to make that a reality. Most everyone of the players has gotten a top-notch college education paid because of football. They should all be fine after their playing career. There can't be the owners responsibility to pay somebody money enough to last a lifetime?

03-13-2011, 07:25 PM	#2
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by Beastmode . Nobody wants the 18 games except for the owners That is not true. I want 18 games. I could live with 16 if they cut out 2 preseason games, but they are never gonna do that. I just can't believe that the players are being such crybabies over 2 more games. Baseball players play 162 games. I know football is a rougher sport, but not by 146 games. I mean...seriously. Would you rather play 18 games of football for megabucks or 162 games of baseball. To me, it's a no-brainer.
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03-13-2011, 09:09 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by Saint_LB That is not true. I want 18 games. I could live with 16 if they cut out 2 preseason games, but they are never gonna do that. I just can't believe that the players are being such crybabies over 2 more games. Baseball players play 162 games. I know football is a rougher sport, but not by 146 games. I mean...seriously. Would you rather play 18 games of football for megabucks or 162 games of baseball. To me, it's a no-brainer. Agreed. I wanted 18 games too, with other concessions like 2 bye weeks, 4 and 8 week IR's, increased roster sizes, more two-team training camps, less off-season OTA's, mandatory safety equipment, more safety equipment R&D etc...

03-13-2011, 03:49 PM	#6
dasaints26 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 167	Just wonder if we could use any similarities between the NFL and the teachers in Wisc. The teachers have a good union and still they have to give back a % of their pay. Would you rather be a teacher losing 20% of your pay or a QB losing 20% of your pay? Sure would suck losing 20% of an 8 million dollar contract but it would suck more losing 20% of a 40000 salary. Wonder why that state would only pick the teachers to cut benefits for. Would be less of a cut if they cut everyones benefit that was a state employee. I wonder if the politicians ever considered cutting their own benefits along with the teachers.
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03-15-2011, 11:08 PM	#9
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,431 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by jeanpierre This mess was created by Paul Tagliabue's inability to grow a pair... Inmates have been running the asylum and now we are seeing the bill come due... Oh, I want Iceshack to bring back his polarbear avatar and FFan to disclose who the avatar is along with a facebook link... OK. I'll bring it back, JP. Attached Thumbnails

03-10-2011, 10:58 PM	#4
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Yeah I have to agree that if the players don't watch out they will be he bad guys. Imagine yourself as an Owner of a business and being told/demanded by your employees to show them the books and to pay them more even though they make a hell of a lot more than the people packing the stadiums. The more I thik about It the more I'm starting to dislike unions or collective bargining. Owners cold just fire all the players and start over with fresh college grads and go with half of what the current players are asking for and come out winners.

03-12-2011, 01:51 PM	#5
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	theres more than a handfull of players that are at the end of there carreers and hoping to nail a year or 2 of good money in the bank. but if this thing drags they will lose that one last lick and there careers are over. watch out guys

03-13-2011, 06:33 PM	#7
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	they should have busted the unions years ago put limits on salarys years ago with yearly cost of living raises years ago. football would still be the same today, most popular sport. this is sucking royal pains in the butts

03-13-2011, 10:08 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	This mess was created by Paul Tagliabue's inability to grow a pair... Inmates have been running the asylum and now we are seeing the bill come due... Oh, I want Iceshack to bring back his polarbear avatar and FFan to disclose who the avatar is along with a facebook link...