Stinchcomb Released

FinSaint · 08-16-2011, 09:35 AM

Thanks Seer1 for the answer, but it still leaves the question if all that goes away if he signs with another team during this season?

I mean he might retire, but he made the statement that he was looking forward to playing healthy this season, so it would seem he still wants to play just based on that.

I wonder is Max Starks would be an upgrade to what the Saints have already?

Seer1 · 08-16-2011, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Thanks Seer1 for the answer, but it still leaves the question if all that goes away if he signs with another team during this season?

I mean he might retire, but he made the statement that he was looking forward to playing healthy this season, so it would seem he still wants to play just based on that.

I wonder is Max Starks would be an upgrade to what the Saints have already?

I don't know the answer to that one, but I feel there's more going on than meets the eye. With the Saints being willing to cut him with no cap advantage and then reading Jon's interview. It doesn't sound like there's any bitterness whatsoever. And even though he's an incredibly classy guy and we all know how reporters love to twist words to make a story, I really think if there'd been the hint of Jon being cut unwillingly, something would have come up in that interview. I'm wondering if this was a mutual kind of thing with both sides realizing he can't perform up to par anymore so they cut him with his salary intact. Kind of a severance package kind of thing. That way he heads off to Announcerland or where ever makes him happy and since his health wasn't mentioned as an issue, maybe he'll heal up enough to be able to play next year. It's easier to get a job if no one thinks you're an injury issue. I don't think we'll see him signing with anyone else this year though.

FinSaint · 08-16-2011, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

I don't know the answer to that one, but I feel there's more going on than meets the eye. With the Saints being willing to cut him with no cap advantage and then reading Jon's interview. It doesn't sound like there's any bitterness whatsoever. And even though he's an incredibly classy guy and we all know how reporters love to twist words to make a story, I really think if there'd been the hint of Jon being cut unwillingly, something would have come up in that interview. I'm wondering if this was a mutual kind of thing with both sides realizing he can't perform up to par anymore so they cut him with his salary intact. Kind of a severance package kind of thing. That way he heads off to Announcerland or where ever makes him happy and since his health wasn't mentioned as an issue, maybe he'll heal up enough to be able to play next year. It's easier to get a job if no one thinks you're an injury issue. I don't think we'll see him signing with anyone else this year though.

Hypothetically speaking, can the Saints still call him up if he doesn't sign with any other team? What I mean is that the Saints are still in a way his employer 'cos they pay him salary... or does the cutting mean that the working relationship ends there and the guaranteed pay is considered as a "severance package" type of a deal?

Granted I don't think this scenario would materialize, but as I stated, hypothetically would it be possible?

Seer1 · 08-16-2011, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Hypothetically speaking, can the Saints still call him up if he doesn't sign with any other team? What I mean is that the Saints are still in a way his employer 'cos they pay him salary... or does the cutting mean that the working relationship ends there and the guaranteed pay is considered as a "severance package" type of a deal?

Granted I don't think this scenario would materialize, but as I stated, hypothetically would it be possible?

I don't see why not. Look at all the out of the league RB's we called up last year. (Definitely saw why they were out of the league.) But yeah, this money stuff has a lot of smoke and and mirrors about it. Hopefully this will just remain a brain exercise and not actually become necessary.

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alexonfyre · 08-16-2011, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

I don't see why not. Look at all the out of the league RB's we called up last year. (Definitely saw why they were out of the league.) But yeah, this money stuff has a lot of smoke and and mirrors about it. Hopefully this will just remain a brain exercise and not actually become necessary.

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xan · 08-16-2011, 09:53 AM

Man, if I were guaranteed $2.25 mil and I didn't have to mud wrassell on a bum knee, take grief in the papers and could rehab for a year, come back and still have a career, I certainly would have the attitude Stinch has.

Holy hell, why can't I get a deal like that?

alexonfyre · 08-16-2011, 10:19 AM

Think about the leverage this ACTUALLY gives the staff in the locker room now.

I imagine a scene something like this with the rookies and new recruits:

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"I liked that bear, I don't even know you."

st thomas · 08-16-2011, 11:24 AM

well, charles brown u better get those hamstring tightened up dude because we spent a second rd pick on u and all news we ever heard from u was that hammy. please be the answer man.

WhoDat!656 · 08-16-2011, 11:50 AM

With Stinch gone, it opens up room on the roster for another player.

Rugby Saint II · 08-16-2011, 02:30 PM

It was simply time to go. Someone in house may step up or we may have to look at some of the outcasts that are cut later. Personally, I think of Stinchcomb with fond memories and will give him the respect he has eaned and deserves. However......business is business and we did what we needed to do.....if we cut him with salary then we are an even classier organization than I thought. We are known for doing right by our players and I'm proud.

08-16-2011, 09:51 AM	#2
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Originally Posted by FinSaint Thanks Seer1 for the answer, but it still leaves the question if all that goes away if he signs with another team during this season? I mean he might retire, but he made the statement that he was looking forward to playing healthy this season, so it would seem he still wants to play just based on that. I wonder is Max Starks would be an upgrade to what the Saints have already? I don't know the answer to that one, but I feel there's more going on than meets the eye. With the Saints being willing to cut him with no cap advantage and then reading Jon's interview. It doesn't sound like there's any bitterness whatsoever. And even though he's an incredibly classy guy and we all know how reporters love to twist words to make a story, I really think if there'd been the hint of Jon being cut unwillingly, something would have come up in that interview. I'm wondering if this was a mutual kind of thing with both sides realizing he can't perform up to par anymore so they cut him with his salary intact. Kind of a severance package kind of thing. That way he heads off to Announcerland or where ever makes him happy and since his health wasn't mentioned as an issue, maybe he'll heal up enough to be able to play next year. It's easier to get a job if no one thinks you're an injury issue. I don't think we'll see him signing with anyone else this year though.

08-16-2011, 12:24 PM	#3
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by Seer1 I don't know the answer to that one, but I feel there's more going on than meets the eye. With the Saints being willing to cut him with no cap advantage and then reading Jon's interview. It doesn't sound like there's any bitterness whatsoever. And even though he's an incredibly classy guy and we all know how reporters love to twist words to make a story, I really think if there'd been the hint of Jon being cut unwillingly, something would have come up in that interview. I'm wondering if this was a mutual kind of thing with both sides realizing he can't perform up to par anymore so they cut him with his salary intact. Kind of a severance package kind of thing. That way he heads off to Announcerland or where ever makes him happy and since his health wasn't mentioned as an issue, maybe he'll heal up enough to be able to play next year. It's easier to get a job if no one thinks you're an injury issue. I don't think we'll see him signing with anyone else this year though. Hypothetically speaking, can the Saints still call him up if he doesn't sign with any other team? What I mean is that the Saints are still in a way his employer 'cos they pay him salary... or does the cutting mean that the working relationship ends there and the guaranteed pay is considered as a "severance package" type of a deal? Granted I don't think this scenario would materialize, but as I stated, hypothetically would it be possible?

08-16-2011, 12:48 PM	#4
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Originally Posted by FinSaint Hypothetically speaking, can the Saints still call him up if he doesn't sign with any other team? What I mean is that the Saints are still in a way his employer 'cos they pay him salary... or does the cutting mean that the working relationship ends there and the guaranteed pay is considered as a "severance package" type of a deal? Granted I don't think this scenario would materialize, but as I stated, hypothetically would it be possible? I don't see why not. Look at all the out of the league RB's we called up last year. (Definitely saw why they were out of the league.) But yeah, this money stuff has a lot of smoke and and mirrors about it. Hopefully this will just remain a brain exercise and not actually become necessary. When did I become a senior member?

08-16-2011, 04:35 PM	#5
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Originally Posted by Seer1 I don't see why not. Look at all the out of the league RB's we called up last year. (Definitely saw why they were out of the league.) But yeah, this money stuff has a lot of smoke and and mirrors about it. Hopefully this will just remain a brain exercise and not actually become necessary. When did I become a senior member? When you got to 100 posts. Now you are in message board puberty, when you become a real man (or woman) you will get a custom tag. The hardest thing to deal with is the zits.

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08-16-2011, 09:35 AM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Thanks Seer1 for the answer, but it still leaves the question if all that goes away if he signs with another team during this season? I mean he might retire, but he made the statement that he was looking forward to playing healthy this season, so it would seem he still wants to play just based on that. I wonder is Max Starks would be an upgrade to what the Saints have already?

08-16-2011, 09:53 AM	#6
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,372 Blog Entries: 34	Man, if I were guaranteed $2.25 mil and I didn't have to mud wrassell on a bum knee, take grief in the papers and could rehab for a year, come back and still have a career, I certainly would have the attitude Stinch has. Holy hell, why can't I get a deal like that?

08-16-2011, 11:24 AM	#8
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	well, charles brown u better get those hamstring tightened up dude because we spent a second rd pick on u and all news we ever heard from u was that hammy. please be the answer man.

08-16-2011, 11:50 AM	#9
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,085	With Stinch gone, it opens up room on the roster for another player.

08-16-2011, 02:30 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	It was simply time to go. Someone in house may step up or we may have to look at some of the outcasts that are cut later. Personally, I think of Stinchcomb with fond memories and will give him the respect he has eaned and deserves. However......business is business and we did what we needed to do.....if we cut him with salary then we are an even classier organization than I thought. We are known for doing right by our players and I'm proud.