Thoughts on Going for it on 4th down in the 3rd

UK_WhoDat · 09-09-2011, 05:08 PM

Deciding to go for it wasn't the problem.
It was the play used to try it.

In terms of which plays really lost it for us; they were mainly our D on their O. We did not hold them up enough.

saintsfan1976 · 09-09-2011, 06:30 PM

In that situation, I'd like to see our offense rush to the line and catch the D off guard.

FireVenturi · 09-09-2011, 06:36 PM

I have no problem with the decisions or the play calls. same decisions and play calls he made two years ago. The difference is that two years ago, we executed better.

jeanpierre · 09-09-2011, 07:53 PM

Nobody minded the onside kick in the Superbowl?

And obviously our top two guards needed some creative playcalling as they were having trouble moving Mt Raji...

I'd live and die as a fan of Sean Payton as our Coach than geaux back to the percentage playing of Jim Mora...

strato · 09-09-2011, 08:59 PM

I want Sean Mora...best O and D

NOS2SB · 09-10-2011, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by bbourque5

Sorry buddy but I have to disagree with you somewhat on this one. Of course if we make it he's a hero, but I would still question the call. These two things are not mutually exclusive.

Of course the average fan was probably yelling go for it, but Sean Payton is not a fan, he is a coach (he manages the team) and he has to do on the spot risk analysis. If you're going to go for it, you better have a better play that what we had. I'm not saying better play as in more creative, I mean a better play as in a high probability play. We were already in a bad place; going for it on 4th down when you're only down by 8 at the end of the third quarter is a huge risk, why make the risk even bigger with a bonehead play call.

So, if we would have made it would you have started a thread saying it was a questionable call and you question Payton as a play caller? I'm pretty sure no one would be talking about it.

homerj07 · 09-10-2011, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

We make it, he's a hero. We don't, the call is questioned. That's life.

Just like always - Hero or Goat

foreverfan · 09-10-2011, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Nobody minded the onside kick in the Superbowl?

Can you imagine the second guessing if that play would have cost us the Superbowl?

Srgt. Hulka · 09-11-2011, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

So, if we would have made it would you have started a thread saying it was a questionable call and you question Payton as a play caller? I'm pretty sure no one would be talking about it.

I may not have started a thread, but as soon as Drew did not hand the ball off, and it was clear that his intentions were to throw it, I started screaming at the TV "What are you doing!!". So yes, I saw immediately that it was the wrong call, and I would have questioned it, even if he had made a touchdown. And since we tried the exact same play on an earlier drive, and lost 20 yards on that one too...

hagan714 · 09-11-2011, 10:41 AM

common logic tells you when u play GB in GB u take the 3. especially in a two possession game

But this is sean we are talking about here. i will yell in the last 1/3 of the year if we are still the worse team in the nfl in short yardage

09-10-2011, 03:39 AM	#26
NOS2SB Shampoo Join Date: May 2011 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 454	Originally Posted by bbourque5 Sorry buddy but I have to disagree with you somewhat on this one. Of course if we make it he's a hero, but I would still question the call. These two things are not mutually exclusive. Of course the average fan was probably yelling go for it, but Sean Payton is not a fan, he is a coach (he manages the team) and he has to do on the spot risk analysis. If you're going to go for it, you better have a better play that what we had. I'm not saying better play as in more creative, I mean a better play as in a high probability play. We were already in a bad place; going for it on 4th down when you're only down by 8 at the end of the third quarter is a huge risk, why make the risk even bigger with a bonehead play call. So, if we would have made it would you have started a thread saying it was a questionable call and you question Payton as a play caller? I'm pretty sure no one would be talking about it.

09-10-2011, 11:15 AM	#27
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Originally Posted by NOS2SB We make it, he's a hero. We don't, the call is questioned. That's life. Just like always - Hero or Goat

09-10-2011, 11:21 AM	#28
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Nobody minded the onside kick in the Superbowl? Can you imagine the second guessing if that play would have cost us the Superbowl?

09-11-2011, 09:27 AM	#29
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Originally Posted by NOS2SB So, if we would have made it would you have started a thread saying it was a questionable call and you question Payton as a play caller? I'm pretty sure no one would be talking about it. I may not have started a thread, but as soon as Drew did not hand the ball off, and it was clear that his intentions were to throw it, I started screaming at the TV "What are you doing!!". So yes, I saw immediately that it was the wrong call, and I would have questioned it, even if he had made a touchdown. And since we tried the exact same play on an earlier drive, and lost 20 yards on that one too...

09-09-2011, 05:08 PM	#21
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,984	Deciding to go for it wasn't the problem. It was the play used to try it. In terms of which plays really lost it for us; they were mainly our D on their O. We did not hold them up enough.

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FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	I have no problem with the decisions or the play calls. same decisions and play calls he made two years ago. The difference is that two years ago, we executed better.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Nobody minded the onside kick in the Superbowl? And obviously our top two guards needed some creative playcalling as they were having trouble moving Mt Raji... I'd live and die as a fan of Sean Payton as our Coach than geaux back to the percentage playing of Jim Mora...

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strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	I want Sean Mora...best O and D

09-11-2011, 10:41 AM	#30
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	common logic tells you when u play GB in GB u take the 3. especially in a two possession game But this is sean we are talking about here. i will yell in the last 1/3 of the year if we are still the worse team in the nfl in short yardage