Harper on the decline?

Marlboro Man · 09-11-2011, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by strato

Cant cover period...good against the run..thats it

Not even that good against the run. Actually watch him play. He constantly takes bad angles to the ball carrier, QB, whoever. He arm tackles a lot and gets lucky to get just enough to trip the guy up. He rarely hits a guy straight on with power. A lot of people just listen to what others say and repeat it thinking he's all that. Go back to 09 and actually watch games. Watch how many times he fills the hole, is the only player there and completely whiffs on the tackle. This guy needs to be replaced. In coverage, even when he's right there, he misses the ball and the receiver makes the catch, over and over again. Stop listening to what others are spouting and actuall watch this guy play. He leaves a LOT to be desired. How many safties intercept the ball (when he actually makes a catch) and get run down from behind by the QB? Really.

SaintsRule11 · 09-11-2011, 11:14 PM

If there is a problem I would say it's a systemic problem that is not tied to Roman Harper, but rather to Gregg Williams. Williams told everyone how completely indispensible Roman Harper was and how Patrick Robinson was going to be so improved. I saw no evidence of this whatsoever in the Packers game and this is two games in a row now where Harper and Robinson have been abused and our defense has been torched for more than 40 points!

Pete · 09-11-2011, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

What position do you think he plays? DT?

lol Got a good laugh out of that one man

foreverfan · 09-11-2011, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by strato

He is a FS

No he's unemployed.

Harper = The New "Shanle" ?

Crusader · 09-12-2011, 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

No he's unemployed.

Harper = The New "Shanle" ?

Sure sounds like it. He could also be called the new Jason Davids, or Tebucky Jones, or Devery Henderson, Reggie Bush or whoever. Seems like there always need to be atleast one guy that the fans can use as a scapegoat and throw some hate at.

AlaskaSaints · 09-12-2011, 03:45 AM

:yawn:

I been sayin'...

Alaska

strato · 09-12-2011, 08:15 AM

But we payed him all that money?...and we didn't get no hometown discount

FinSaint · 09-12-2011, 09:05 AM

If the Saints played Sharper as the SS - which would be a mistake in my mind - it would probably just reverse the situation: he'd be better in coverage, but worse against the rush and creating pressure.

If we would need to find him a position to play, it'd probably be as the FS while moving Jenkins to SS, which again would not be ideal.

There simply isn't a starting spot for him in the Saints' roster, barring any injuries. I wouldn't mind seeing him as a backup and a mentor to the younger players, but it would have to be with a discount because he doesn't contribute to the special teams.

strato · 09-12-2011, 09:09 AM

Yep it shifted from Bush...to Harper..lol

Danno · 09-12-2011, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by strato

Yep it shifted from Bush...to Harper..lol

Yep, and you were wrong about both. lol

09-11-2011, 11:08 PM	#41
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Originally Posted by strato Cant cover period...good against the run..thats it Not even that good against the run. Actually watch him play. He constantly takes bad angles to the ball carrier, QB, whoever. He arm tackles a lot and gets lucky to get just enough to trip the guy up. He rarely hits a guy straight on with power. A lot of people just listen to what others say and repeat it thinking he's all that. Go back to 09 and actually watch games. Watch how many times he fills the hole, is the only player there and completely whiffs on the tackle. This guy needs to be replaced. In coverage, even when he's right there, he misses the ball and the receiver makes the catch, over and over again. Stop listening to what others are spouting and actuall watch this guy play. He leaves a LOT to be desired. How many safties intercept the ball (when he actually makes a catch) and get run down from behind by the QB? Really. strato likes this.

09-11-2011, 11:14 PM	#42
SaintsRule11 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 277	If there is a problem I would say it's a systemic problem that is not tied to Roman Harper, but rather to Gregg Williams. Williams told everyone how completely indispensible Roman Harper was and how Patrick Robinson was going to be so improved. I saw no evidence of this whatsoever in the Packers game and this is two games in a row now where Harper and Robinson have been abused and our defense has been torched for more than 40 points!
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09-11-2011, 11:15 PM	#43
Pete • Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Patterson, LA Posts: 1,757	Originally Posted by foreverfan What position do you think he plays? DT? lol Got a good laugh out of that one man
	Last edited by Pete; 09-11-2011 at 11:23 PM..

09-11-2011, 11:32 PM	#44
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by strato He is a FS No he's unemployed. Harper = The New "Shanle" ?
	Last edited by foreverfan; 09-11-2011 at 11:36 PM..

09-12-2011, 03:44 AM	#45
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,049	Originally Posted by foreverfan No he's unemployed. Harper = The New "Shanle" ? Sure sounds like it. He could also be called the new Jason Davids, or Tebucky Jones, or Devery Henderson, Reggie Bush or whoever. Seems like there always need to be atleast one guy that the fans can use as a scapegoat and throw some hate at. foreverfan likes this.

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09-12-2011, 03:45 AM	#46
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	:yawn: I been sayin'... Alaska

09-12-2011, 08:15 AM	#47
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	But we payed him all that money?...and we didn't get no hometown discount

09-12-2011, 09:05 AM	#48
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	If the Saints played Sharper as the SS - which would be a mistake in my mind - it would probably just reverse the situation: he'd be better in coverage, but worse against the rush and creating pressure. If we would need to find him a position to play, it'd probably be as the FS while moving Jenkins to SS, which again would not be ideal. There simply isn't a starting spot for him in the Saints' roster, barring any injuries. I wouldn't mind seeing him as a backup and a mentor to the younger players, but it would have to be with a discount because he doesn't contribute to the special teams.
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09-12-2011, 09:09 AM	#49
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Yep it shifted from Bush...to Harper..lol

09-12-2011, 09:13 AM	#50
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by strato Yep it shifted from Bush...to Harper..lol Yep, and you were wrong about both. lol CantonLegend likes this.

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