Comparisons

BillyC · 01-27-2004, 01:18 PM

Leave it to you to take it as a personal attack and get defensive....

The post I made did not quote anyone in this thread, but now that it is out there - all of those things have been said by various people on this board. Enough is enough, we are all adults here. I can disagree with your opinion (and almost always do) without dogging your opinion out. It takes some self-control and some consideration for others, but it can be done.

I didn\'t take it as a personal attack. I did however take it as you posting in a thread that was going fine until you made reference to people saying;

It would be great if everyone would quit knocking other people\'s opinion as \"dumb\", \"unsupported\", \"crazy\" or an \"agenda.\" Your OWN OPINION is no more valid, nor any more \"dumb\", \"unsupported\", \"crazy\" or an \"agenda.\"

[Edited on 27/1/2004 by BillyC]

[Edited on 27/1/2004 by ColdFusion]

FrenzyFan · 01-27-2004, 01:46 PM

I sure am sorry you took my post as something negative. I didn\'t see anything negative in it, but each person is entitled to their opinion. I respectfully disagree with your implication that I somehow started trouble by asking people to be nice to one another.

BillyC · 01-27-2004, 01:55 PM

FrenzyFan --

Look, this is nothing personal towards you. It\'s just this board has more drama than a soap opera. Most of the drama is caused not by what someone originally posts, but by other members carring it on and on and on. It starts in one thread and carries over into the next thread, and personally, I\'m tired of all the whining. People need to get over themselves and realize that everything isn\'t personal. ( I\'m not talking about you FF)

People have the right to question anything I think. As long as it\'s not insulting. Why does everyone feel compelled to do the moderator\'s job? Everyone knows what the rules are and I think if certain members would quit trying to be the \"BOARD POLICE\" that it wouldn\'t be nearly as much trouble on this board. No hard feelings.

WhoDat · 01-27-2004, 02:30 PM

Is this not being the \"board police\"??

Enough is enough and do we really need someone bringing up stuff like that when it\'s TOTALLY uncalled for? Exactly what are you trying to prove in this thread? Seems to me when no one is calling anyone any of those names, it\'s pointless to be starting trouble when there is none.

I have another question:

I\'ve asked for facts and all I get are opinions. Last year folks wanted to look at stats. This year they don\'t want to talk about stats or completion percentage.

Why is it that when you look at statistics and make some inference that becomes a \"FACT\", but when we do the same it is an \"OPINION\"? Hey BC, you show me some hard facts that this team is holding the Brooks back. Stop, before you even try, don\'t do it. You can\'t. You cannot prove a negative and it\'s subjective anyway. I could say that you are the most disruptive member on this board. I could post some of your previous comments as proof. Would that make it true? Of course not. My advice is to stop talking about the \"facts\" b/c there are none here. There are opinions. Arguing the facts you be member A saying, \"AB\'s efficiency rating was 88.8 this season.\" Member B: \"No it wasn\'t.\" That\'s an argument about fact b/c it can be determined without inferences or assumptions or analysis. Everything else is an OPINION, including everything you post.

Finally,

People wanna make Brooks the reason the Saints didn\'t make the playoffs.

Who said that? I said that last season... or maybe more accurately, Haslett\'s decision to play Brooks is the reason we missed the playoffs. Can you show me where someone said that about this season?

BillyC · 01-27-2004, 02:46 PM

WhoDat --

Look dude, I\'m tired of all of these games. I know what\'s fair and what isn\'t. You never hear me saying someone can\'t post their opinions. Hell, the more the merrier. What I am getting tired of is all the BS. I\'m going to call it like I see it and I will do it without insulting anyone. If you want to debate ANYTHING I say, then feel free to jump in.

But, don\'t insult my intelligence by telling me there are NO facts. There are theories, but when evidence proves those theories out, they then become facts.... Not that that relates to any one particular debate on here, but please don\'t try to tell me there are no facts when it comes to football.

This board has become about: I\'m tired or reading about this.
Or, Don\'t question me about this.
Or, you hurt my feelings.
Or, you are being antagonistic.

Just a bunch of whining in general, when I see no one really causing any trouble on here. If I\'m guilty of it, then so is EVERYONE else. Yet, I get singled out. What gives?

[Edited on 27/1/2004 by BillyC]

ColdFusion · 01-27-2004, 03:31 PM

Enough is enough and do we really need someone bringing up stuff like that when it\'s TOTALLY uncalled for? Exactly what are you trying to prove in this thread? Seems to me when no one is calling anyone any of those names, it\'s pointless to be starting trouble when there is none.

It is not your place to worry about things like this.

01-27-2004, 01:18 PM	#61
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Comparisons Leave it to you to take it as a personal attack and get defensive.... The post I made did not quote anyone in this thread, but now that it is out there - all of those things have been said by various people on this board. Enough is enough, we are all adults here. I can disagree with your opinion (and almost always do) without dogging your opinion out. It takes some self-control and some consideration for others, but it can be done. I didn\'t take it as a personal attack. I did however take it as you posting in a thread that was going fine until you made reference to people saying; It would be great if everyone would quit knocking other people\'s opinion as \"dumb\", \"unsupported\", \"crazy\" or an \"agenda.\" Your OWN OPINION is no more valid, nor any more \"dumb\", \"unsupported\", \"crazy\" or an \"agenda.\" [Edited on 27/1/2004 by BillyC] [Edited on 27/1/2004 by ColdFusion]
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01-27-2004, 01:46 PM	#62
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Comparisons I sure am sorry you took my post as something negative. I didn\'t see anything negative in it, but each person is entitled to their opinion. I respectfully disagree with your implication that I somehow started trouble by asking people to be nice to one another.
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01-27-2004, 01:55 PM	#63
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Comparisons FrenzyFan -- Look, this is nothing personal towards you. It\'s just this board has more drama than a soap opera. Most of the drama is caused not by what someone originally posts, but by other members carring it on and on and on. It starts in one thread and carries over into the next thread, and personally, I\'m tired of all the whining. People need to get over themselves and realize that everything isn\'t personal. ( I\'m not talking about you FF) People have the right to question anything I think. As long as it\'s not insulting. Why does everyone feel compelled to do the moderator\'s job? Everyone knows what the rules are and I think if certain members would quit trying to be the \"BOARD POLICE\" that it wouldn\'t be nearly as much trouble on this board. No hard feelings.
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842

01-27-2004, 02:30 PM	#64
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Comparisons Is this not being the \"board police\"?? Enough is enough and do we really need someone bringing up stuff like that when it\'s TOTALLY uncalled for? Exactly what are you trying to prove in this thread? Seems to me when no one is calling anyone any of those names, it\'s pointless to be starting trouble when there is none. I have another question: I\'ve asked for facts and all I get are opinions. Last year folks wanted to look at stats. This year they don\'t want to talk about stats or completion percentage. Why is it that when you look at statistics and make some inference that becomes a \"FACT\", but when we do the same it is an \"OPINION\"? Hey BC, you show me some hard facts that this team is holding the Brooks back. Stop, before you even try, don\'t do it. You can\'t. You cannot prove a negative and it\'s subjective anyway. I could say that you are the most disruptive member on this board. I could post some of your previous comments as proof. Would that make it true? Of course not. My advice is to stop talking about the \"facts\" b/c there are none here. There are opinions. Arguing the facts you be member A saying, \"AB\'s efficiency rating was 88.8 this season.\" Member B: \"No it wasn\'t.\" That\'s an argument about fact b/c it can be determined without inferences or assumptions or analysis. Everything else is an OPINION, including everything you post. Finally, People wanna make Brooks the reason the Saints didn\'t make the playoffs. Who said that? I said that last season... or maybe more accurately, Haslett\'s decision to play Brooks is the reason we missed the playoffs. Can you show me where someone said that about this season?
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

01-27-2004, 02:46 PM	#65
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	Comparisons WhoDat -- Look dude, I\'m tired of all of these games. I know what\'s fair and what isn\'t. You never hear me saying someone can\'t post their opinions. Hell, the more the merrier. What I am getting tired of is all the BS. I\'m going to call it like I see it and I will do it without insulting anyone. If you want to debate ANYTHING I say, then feel free to jump in. But, don\'t insult my intelligence by telling me there are NO facts. There are theories, but when evidence proves those theories out, they then become facts.... Not that that relates to any one particular debate on here, but please don\'t try to tell me there are no facts when it comes to football. This board has become about: I\'m tired or reading about this. Or, Don\'t question me about this. Or, you hurt my feelings. Or, you are being antagonistic. Just a bunch of whining in general, when I see no one really causing any trouble on here. If I\'m guilty of it, then so is EVERYONE else. Yet, I get singled out. What gives? [Edited on 27/1/2004 by BillyC]
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01-27-2004, 03:31 PM	#66
ColdFusion Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 24	Comparisons Enough is enough and do we really need someone bringing up stuff like that when it\'s TOTALLY uncalled for? Exactly what are you trying to prove in this thread? Seems to me when no one is calling anyone any of those names, it\'s pointless to be starting trouble when there is none. It is not your place to worry about things like this.
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