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Defensive shakeup
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I've always been in favor of the 4-3 as opposed to the 3-4 as the base for a D, but I wouldn't be against it if it made the D better. But, alas, it's hard to see how things would ...
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11-01-2011, 02:41 PM
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I've always been in favor of the 4-3 as opposed to the 3-4 as the base for a D, but I wouldn't be against it if it made the D better. But, alas, it's hard to see how things would improve with the LBs the Saints have at the moment, and I'm not sure how well GW is adapted to working out of that base... does anyone know if he has ever had a 3-4 as the base of his D?
Anyway, if they were to run the 3-4 I'd like to see Franklin as the nose, because that is where he shined in SF. |
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11-01-2011, 02:48 PM
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Myself; I'm a fan of the 3-4... i think it's a lot easier to disguise blitzes and bring pressure from a lot more angles. However at this time our LBs are too small to run it consistently.
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11-01-2011, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by |Mitch|
Me to Mitch...if you notice the 3-4 gives us the most trouble..and the teams that run it are always the best Ds in the league. |
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11-01-2011, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by |Mitch|
Ok Mitch i got it..lol Wilson -OLB 250 Vilma-MLB 230 Shanle MLB 245 Galette-OLB 253 That's 3-4 size... |
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11-01-2011, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by strato
Actually 3-4 LB's are usually 4-3 tweeners; 4-3 Defensive ends that are really too small to play the position effectively... I would say 250-260+
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11-01-2011, 04:40 PM
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Regarding the tackles, Franklin and Rogers rotate at the nose as they're the same position and big guys like that have a snap-count ceiling...
Johnson and Ellis are at the Three-tech; Ellis second on the depth chart to send a msg... Rotate the DE's more so their fresh and can keep coming all game through with the best rushers game by game basis going in the fourth quarter... Linebackers? Vilma/Humber (Mike-backer), Shanle/Casillas (Will-backer), Dunbar/Wilson (Sam-backer); they need work, lotsa work... |
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11-01-2011, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Yep, nothing wrong with a 4-3.
Its not the alignment that matters, its the alignees. Our current players are better suited using a base 4-3. While Jordan, Franklin, and Wilson are decent 3-4 prospects, Smith is strictly a 4-3 DE. Vilma is strictly a 4-3 MLB (or a 4-3 WLB), Dunbar is ideally a 4-3 MLB, and Shanle can't play ILB in a 3-4. They'd all get eaten alive by O-linemen. I'm not sure Galette would be a good stand-up DE/OLB either. He looks like a 4-3 RDE all day long. Johnson and Ellis are in no way shape or form 3-4 DT's. |
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11-01-2011, 06:01 PM
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I don't think the scheme is the problem, its more execution .... it would help if the corners would catch INTs that hit them right in the hands
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11-01-2011, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83
It also might help if the CB's were not playing off the receiver 10-15 yds!
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11-01-2011, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by biloxi-indian
Agreed, what has Brandon Lloyd done that deserves a 10 yard cushion? Reminds me of the Packers game.... why is GW bringing back the sins of Gary Gibbs? This team actually has corners now let them play some bump and run
Agree about Sharper, without him this defense has lost its swagger, seems that the defense lost heart too |
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