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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Ok hear me out maybe im crazy...but there has to be a way to improve this D line..ok...what if went to a primary 3-4?...i know Vilma loves the 4-3..but were going to say shut up and play where we put ...

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Old 11-01-2011, 01:48 PM   #1
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Defensive shakeup

Ok hear me out maybe im crazy...but there has to be a way to improve this D line..ok...what if went to a primary 3-4?...i know Vilma loves the 4-3..but were going to say shut up and play where we put you..


Ok...here is how i might would run the front 7.. ok now im not a genius at D ..just looking at our personnel and how we might get more pressure and contain the perimeters better...

D-line..

Jordan at DE
Rogers at DT with Ellis..Johnson and Franklin rotating
Smith at DE

of course we have Charleston.... McBride and Galette to rotate at DE


LBs



Wilson at OLB

Vilma at MLB

Dunbar at MLB

Casillas...atOLB

with Shanle and Humber..Bussey as backups..also maybe Galette in the OLB spot..on run plays

Harper would be able to roam and help in run support and also get help with coverage.. still send him on blitzes..

Any thoughts?...i know its crazy..and really if our front 4 would just step up and help keep the LBs clean that would be a huge plus..None of this really matters if we don't tackle better..

Aww the days of the Dome Patrol..

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As ineffective as the front four have been, I like it. Maybe it helps contain the big runs we have been subject to.
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We can't field 3 good LB's so I'm pretty sure 4 ain't no better.
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Casillas has been showing promise.
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Old 11-01-2011, 02:05 PM   #5
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I have mixed emotions.
On the one hand, masking, stunting, and coverage could be improved.
The 4 linebackers could do some hands down duty, especially if Junior is in there.
Our abilities on the outside edges would be two steps improved (2 steps is a lot).
We need to do something different to shake things up a bit.
On the other hand, the one thing I don't like about the 3-4 is, it gives O-lines direct engagement on the LB's.
It simply increases the territory the nose tackle and DE's have to hold down.
We have not been cloggin up the middle with 2 guys in there, I'm almost scared of pulling 1 guy to the 2nd level.
Harper may end up with 15 tackles and a bruised collar bone.
A good mix of the 3-4 4-3 could give us some advantage in confusing blocking schemes.
If it helps us make plays, force some punts, gets some turnovers, I'm all for it.
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4-3

DL -Jordan, Franklin, Ellis, Smith
LB -Casilla, Dunbar, lesser of all the evils

How that's for a shakeup? Bench Vilma and Rogers... see if that gets their blood boiling and swag back.
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Originally Posted by papz View Post
4-3

DL -Jordan, Franklin, Ellis, Smith
LB -Casilla, Dunbar, lesser of all the evils

How that's for a shakeup? Bench Vilma and Rogers... see if that gets their blood boiling and swag back.

Ok swap Franklin for Rogers...but keep Vilma in there ..just get him some help...i think he might be gimpy and its starting to show..
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Originally Posted by darstep View Post
I have mixed emotions.
On the one hand, masking, stunting, and coverage could be improved.
The 4 linebackers could do some hands down duty, especially if Junior is in there.
Our abilities on the outside edges would be two steps improved (2 steps is a lot).
We need to do something different to shake things up a bit.
On the other hand, the one thing I don't like about the 3-4 is, it gives O-lines direct engagement on the LB's.
It simply increases the territory the nose tackle and DE's have to hold down.
We have not been cloggin up the middle with 2 guys in there, I'm almost scared of pulling 1 guy to the 2nd level.
Harper may end up with 15 tackles and a bruised collar bone.
A good mix of the 3-4 4-3 could give us some advantage in confusing blocking schemes.
If it helps us make plays, force some punts, gets some turnovers, I'm all for it.
You make some good points and thats why i started this thread..if you notice our LBs are always tackling down the field ..maybe this way they would be able to stop those runs to the outside and cutbacks before they gain 9 yards..or more..but it all starts with sound tackling...or at least stand the guy up and wait for help..
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We really don't run a 4-3 really...

Ok the one thing I like in your plan is Gallete at OLB. I think that has some promise to it. He seems to have speed and can play. Mix him up blitzing. Technically it would be like 2 DE's blitzing on one side.
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We really don't run a 4-3 really...

Ok the one thing I like in your plan is Gallete at OLB. I think that has some promise to it. He seems to have speed and can play. Mix him up blitzing. Technically it would be like 2 DE's blitzing on one side.

We run a base 4-3...and yes Galette might help ala D Ware does in Dallas...and he might be better against the run with his size and speed in the OLB spot..
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