Okay, I'll say it...

mikesaintfan · 11-14-2011, 05:12 AM

when reggie was here, he got loads of attention so he was useless...others benefited from that...sproles is now getting that attention so why not have him flair out to 1 side and pt out to the other...pick your poison

Memnoch_TP · 11-14-2011, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

He was hit during the handoff 3 times. Edwards nailed him once 5 yards in the backfield.

He had some good runs in OT when the Falcons knew we were running.

I'd be more concerned that too often he gets hit during the handoff. Somethings not right there. Are we telegraphing when Ingrams in?

Yes, yes we are. If Ingram is in it is almost guaranteed a run. They expect the screen from 23, or a run. They expect short passes and outside runs from Sproles.

I think we need less Ingram and more combos of 23 and Sproles in at the same time. Confuse them, we could do anything from there. For that matter, confuse them even more. Sproles is fast as hell, lets have 23 and Sproles in at the same time, and occasionally have Sproles run a deep route.

CantonLegend · 11-14-2011, 03:29 PM

you should be upset with the 8 carries......not the production

running backs cant get anything going with 2 carries per quarter of football NOT INCLUDING OVERTIME

how can you even pretend to be down on a guy that touches the ball 10 times a game and still continues to pound out tough yards when we need it the most?

AlaskaSaints · 11-14-2011, 03:38 PM

Because ball carries are one at a time. Each time an opportunity to gain more than ONE-POINT-SOMETHING yards each time!

Double his carries and double his yards and yesterday he was still next-to-useless.

That's how...

Come on, Canton. I want to believe he will take off any week now, but it's been 10 weeks and he has yet to break free with only a couple exceptions. Right now I'm more confident with Jed Collins and it should not be that way.

No offense, bro. Just calling it like it is.

Alaska

papz · 11-14-2011, 03:40 PM

Unless the score is 100-0... there's always something to criticize.

AlaskaSaints · 11-14-2011, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by GAwhodat

Heck Sproles got 2 carries for 1 yd. ouch!!

Agreed. However, Sproles has proven himself capable of getting downfield. Ingram has yet to do that.

I'm just begging Ingram, challenging Ingram; show me. I want to have him become a GREAT running back WHILE he plays for us.

Alaska

CantonLegend · 11-14-2011, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Because ball carries are one at a time. Each time an opportunity to gain more than ONE-POINT-SOMETHING yards each time!

Double his carries and double his yards and yesterday he was still next-to-useless.

That's how...

Come on, Canton. I want to believe he will take off any week now, but it's been 10 weeks and he has yet to break free with only a couple exceptions. Right now I'm more confident with Jed Collins and it should not be that way.

No offense, bro. Just calling it like it is.

Alaska

your problem here is that you are trying to say more carries only means the same weak production but thats not the case and any team will tell you that

you know why sproles finds success? because he runs against nickel and dime packages. you know where ingram finds success? on short yardage runs against a stacked box and a beefed up front 7

i understand your disappointed about not having a pick in the first round of next years draft but blaming ingram for anything is completely unjustified

how many running backs have over 50 yards rushing on less than 10 carries this season? not many....especially short yardage guys

strato · 11-14-2011, 03:49 PM

This stat says it all

NFL Stats: by Player Category

I am a bit disappointed... but hopeful...lol

I hope we didn't spend our number one on a short yardage back...I thought he ran wild in the SEC?...

neugey · 11-14-2011, 03:54 PM

I'm just glad he didn't fumble on that play where got stuffed right where Brees handed him the ball.

strato · 11-14-2011, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Unless the score is 100-0... there's always something to criticize.

The run game really gets my blood boiling...lol

I mean when Cam Newton has more yards than our stud RB ..something is wrong...lol

Another thing Demarco Murray 3rd rd pick rookie 674 on 100 attempts

Ingram 1st rd rookie 340 on 93 attempts

I dont like that..

11-14-2011, 08:05 AM	#22
Memnoch_TP Logic Troll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 565	Originally Posted by Danno He was hit during the handoff 3 times. Edwards nailed him once 5 yards in the backfield. He had some good runs in OT when the Falcons knew we were running. I'd be more concerned that too often he gets hit during the handoff. Somethings not right there. Are we telegraphing when Ingrams in? Yes, yes we are. If Ingram is in it is almost guaranteed a run. They expect the screen from 23, or a run. They expect short passes and outside runs from Sproles. I think we need less Ingram and more combos of 23 and Sproles in at the same time. Confuse them, we could do anything from there. For that matter, confuse them even more. Sproles is fast as hell, lets have 23 and Sproles in at the same time, and occasionally have Sproles run a deep route.

11-14-2011, 03:42 PM	#26
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by GAwhodat Heck Sproles got 2 carries for 1 yd. ouch!! Agreed. However, Sproles has proven himself capable of getting downfield. Ingram has yet to do that. I'm just begging Ingram, challenging Ingram; show me. I want to have him become a GREAT running back WHILE he plays for us. Alaska

11-14-2011, 03:42 PM	#27
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Because ball carries are one at a time. Each time an opportunity to gain more than ONE-POINT-SOMETHING yards each time! Double his carries and double his yards and yesterday he was still next-to-useless. That's how... Come on, Canton. I want to believe he will take off any week now, but it's been 10 weeks and he has yet to break free with only a couple exceptions. Right now I'm more confident with Jed Collins and it should not be that way. No offense, bro. Just calling it like it is. Alaska your problem here is that you are trying to say more carries only means the same weak production but thats not the case and any team will tell you that you know why sproles finds success? because he runs against nickel and dime packages. you know where ingram finds success? on short yardage runs against a stacked box and a beefed up front 7 i understand your disappointed about not having a pick in the first round of next years draft but blaming ingram for anything is completely unjustified how many running backs have over 50 yards rushing on less than 10 carries this season? not many....especially short yardage guys Budsdrinker likes this.
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11-14-2011, 03:59 PM	#30
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by papz Unless the score is 100-0... there's always something to criticize. The run game really gets my blood boiling...lol I mean when Cam Newton has more yards than our stud RB ..something is wrong...lol Another thing Demarco Murray 3rd rd pick rookie 674 on 100 attempts Ingram 1st rd rookie 340 on 93 attempts I dont like that..
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CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	you should be upset with the 8 carries......not the production running backs cant get anything going with 2 carries per quarter of football NOT INCLUDING OVERTIME how can you even pretend to be down on a guy that touches the ball 10 times a game and still continues to pound out tough yards when we need it the most?

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AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Because ball carries are one at a time. Each time an opportunity to gain more than ONE-POINT-SOMETHING yards each time! Double his carries and double his yards and yesterday he was still next-to-useless. That's how... Come on, Canton. I want to believe he will take off any week now, but it's been 10 weeks and he has yet to break free with only a couple exceptions. Right now I'm more confident with Jed Collins and it should not be that way. No offense, bro. Just calling it like it is. Alaska

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Unless the score is 100-0... there's always something to criticize.

11-14-2011, 03:49 PM	#28
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	This stat says it all NFL Stats: by Player Category I am a bit disappointed... but hopeful...lol I hope we didn't spend our number one on a short yardage back...I thought he ran wild in the SEC?...

11-14-2011, 03:54 PM	#29
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,714 Blog Entries: 13	I'm just glad he didn't fumble on that play where got stuffed right where Brees handed him the ball.