Lions Coach Schwartz blames officials

Saint_LB · 01-08-2012, 06:41 AM

They got screwed on that one play and it might have possibly made a difference. Yes...the whistle blew...but should it have? Don't they tell the refs to let the play play-out and then they can always go back and change it?

When the whistle blows...they can't do nothing about that.

I was concerned in the 1st half that it was going to be one of those days...and then the Saints came out in the 2nd half looking like the Saints we expected. I have to admit that the Lions seemed to quit when that play went against them.

At the end of the game, it seemed obvious who the better team was...but my only point is that it didn't seem obvious the whole game. JMO, though.

Tobias-Reiper · 01-08-2012, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

They got screwed on that one play and it might have possibly made a difference. Yes...the whistle blew...but should it have? Don't they tell the refs to let the play play-out and then they can always go back and change it?

When the whistle blows...they can't do nothing about that.

But the whistle blew right when the ball hit the ground, BEFORE anyone had possession, which caused the entire Saints team to stop playing.

In reality, they didn't get screwed, because the original call was an incomplete pass... on the contrary, the referee corrected the call, which was the right thing to do. That in Schwartz's mind that should have been a scoop and score, that's another matter, but if the whistle doesn't blow, the entire Saints team goes for that ball, and who knows what would've happened.

Saint_LB · 01-08-2012, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

But the whistle blew right when the ball hit the ground, BEFORE anyone had possession, which caused the entire Saints team to stop playing.

In reality, they didn't get screwed, because the original call was an incomplete pass... on the contrary, the referee corrected the call, which was the right thing to do. That in Schwartz's mind that should have been a scoop and score, that's another matter, but if the whistle doesn't blow, the entire Saints team goes for that ball, and who knows what would've happened.

I agree...and further I really don't believe that the ref intentionally blew the whistle. You can't deny, though, that you've seen the same thing happen and the whistle didn't blow and the other team scored. I really don't know what would have happened last night had the whistle not blown.

You are right, also, that technically due to the circumstances it should have remained the Saints ball if the whistle did in fact blow before the Lions recovered.

So...in a way, the refs made up for the fact that there was an inadvertant whistle, and the Lions got the ball and didn't do anything with it...they had their chance.

Summation. Blowing the whistle was a mistake but not intentional. We don't know how the play would have turned out if it didn't blow...like you said, the Saints may have tackled him immediately and they would have had the same relative field position that they ended up with.

Playoff experienced, championship caliber teams find a way to overcome the adversity, in the end, and that's what the Saints did and what the Lions need to figure out to get to the next level...but they do have the makings of a future great team.

skymike · 01-09-2012, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

But the whistle blew right when the ball hit the ground, BEFORE anyone had possession, which caused the entire Saints team to stop playing.

In reality, they didn't get screwed, because the original call was an incomplete pass... on the contrary, the referee corrected the call, which was the right thing to do. That in Schwartz's mind that should have been a scoop and score, that's another matter, but if the whistle doesn't blow, the entire Saints team goes for that ball, and who knows what would've happened.

excellent. glad you made that point, Toby. I'll bet Bushrod makes another TD saving tackle.

01-08-2012, 06:41 AM	#1
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	They got screwed on that one play and it might have possibly made a difference. Yes...the whistle blew...but should it have? Don't they tell the refs to let the play play-out and then they can always go back and change it? When the whistle blows...they can't do nothing about that. I was concerned in the 1st half that it was going to be one of those days...and then the Saints came out in the 2nd half looking like the Saints we expected. I have to admit that the Lions seemed to quit when that play went against them. At the end of the game, it seemed obvious who the better team was...but my only point is that it didn't seem obvious the whole game. JMO, though. skymike and SloMotion like this.
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01-08-2012, 08:07 AM	#2
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by Saint_LB They got screwed on that one play and it might have possibly made a difference. Yes...the whistle blew...but should it have? Don't they tell the refs to let the play play-out and then they can always go back and change it? When the whistle blows...they can't do nothing about that. But the whistle blew right when the ball hit the ground, BEFORE anyone had possession, which caused the entire Saints team to stop playing. In reality, they didn't get screwed, because the original call was an incomplete pass... on the contrary, the referee corrected the call, which was the right thing to do. That in Schwartz's mind that should have been a scoop and score, that's another matter, but if the whistle doesn't blow, the entire Saints team goes for that ball, and who knows what would've happened. Saint_LB likes this.

01-08-2012, 08:51 AM	#3
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper But the whistle blew right when the ball hit the ground, BEFORE anyone had possession, which caused the entire Saints team to stop playing. In reality, they didn't get screwed, because the original call was an incomplete pass... on the contrary, the referee corrected the call, which was the right thing to do. That in Schwartz's mind that should have been a scoop and score, that's another matter, but if the whistle doesn't blow, the entire Saints team goes for that ball, and who knows what would've happened. I agree...and further I really don't believe that the ref intentionally blew the whistle. You can't deny, though, that you've seen the same thing happen and the whistle didn't blow and the other team scored. I really don't know what would have happened last night had the whistle not blown. You are right, also, that technically due to the circumstances it should have remained the Saints ball if the whistle did in fact blow before the Lions recovered. So...in a way, the refs made up for the fact that there was an inadvertant whistle, and the Lions got the ball and didn't do anything with it...they had their chance. Summation. Blowing the whistle was a mistake but not intentional. We don't know how the play would have turned out if it didn't blow...like you said, the Saints may have tackled him immediately and they would have had the same relative field position that they ended up with. Playoff experienced, championship caliber teams find a way to overcome the adversity, in the end, and that's what the Saints did and what the Lions need to figure out to get to the next level...but they do have the makings of a future great team. Danno likes this.
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01-09-2012, 07:07 AM	#4
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper But the whistle blew right when the ball hit the ground, BEFORE anyone had possession, which caused the entire Saints team to stop playing. In reality, they didn't get screwed, because the original call was an incomplete pass... on the contrary, the referee corrected the call, which was the right thing to do. That in Schwartz's mind that should have been a scoop and score, that's another matter, but if the whistle doesn't blow, the entire Saints team goes for that ball, and who knows what would've happened. excellent. glad you made that point, Toby. I'll bet Bushrod makes another TD saving tackle.

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