Offense must take a hit for defense to improve

halloween 65 · 01-15-2012, 06:11 PM

Vilma needs to go period. Franklin and Rodgers had 1 year contracts= DT in the draft, I want 2, We have DE's so let Smith go, he is overrated. I love Shanle he is solid, but we need youth at the lb. spot, heavy, fast, and hard hitters. Shanle would be a great backup. I like our db.'s probably will be good there although I would keep an eye on Porter, now for the safeties, it's going to depend on the scheme, I love Harper great ss. I can't see him going anywhere, now for Jenkins our 1st round fs. who has played lost all year, lost in G.W. scheme, should get a lot of compitition in training camp and if he can't grasp this scheme write him off, Quaddus will do a better job. Now about the DT's if we draft 2 to get pressure up front it will make our DE's better along with the new lb.'s, win, win. And get rid of Ellis asap, trade, cut, or whatever, waste of time.....

CharityMike · 01-15-2012, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Vilma needs to go period. Franklin and Rodgers had 1 year contracts= DT in the draft, I want 2, We have DE's so let Smith go, he is overrated. I love Shanle he is solid, but we need youth at the lb. spot, heavy, fast, and hard hitters. Shanle would be a great backup. I like our db.'s probably will be good there although I would keep an eye on Porter, now for the safeties, it's going to depend on the scheme, I love Harper great ss. I can't see him going anywhere, now for Jenkins our 1st round fs. who has played lost all year, lost in G.W. scheme, should get a lot of compitition in training camp and if he can't grasp this scheme write him off, Quaddus will do a better job. Now about the DT's if we draft 2 to get pressure up front it will make our DE's better along with the new lb.'s, win, win. And get rid of Ellis asap, trade, cut, or whatever, waste of time.....

Shanle is solid..that's the funniest thing I have read in days..lmfao

To the folks that think Colston is not replaceable..remember when he was out a bunch of weeks, I think it was last year, Moore stepped up and did great. Moore is a playmaker.

GeauxForMore · 01-15-2012, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Shanle is solid..that's the funniest thing I have read in days..lmfao

To the folks that think Colston is not replaceable..remember when he was out a bunch of weeks, I think it was last year, Moore stepped up and did great. Moore is a playmaker.

Moore was hurt alot this year too. Colston did great when Moore was out as well.

Donuts32 · 01-16-2012, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Shanle is solid..that's the funniest thing I have read in days..lmfao

To the folks that think Colston is not replaceable..remember when he was out a bunch of weeks, I think it was last year, Moore stepped up and did great. Moore is a playmaker.

Moore is good but he does disappear in games sometimes. Colston is irreplaceable in this offense and nobody besides Graham will go over the middle of the field and take the big hits or even go up and get the ball.

halloween 65 · 01-16-2012, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Shanle is solid..that's the funniest thing I have read in days..lmfao

To the folks that think Colston is not replaceable..remember when he was out a bunch of weeks, I think it was last year, Moore stepped up and did great. Moore is a playmaker.

Tell me another lb. that has produced and plays each game? And don't say Vilma, that would be a joke!! He is on a steady decline, to light to actually play the middle, runs from straight on tackles, he had a few good years and thats it, he only has a little more speed than Shanle and don't have much of that left. Most over rated MLB. in the game today in my opinion.

CharityMike · 01-16-2012, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Tell me another lb. that has produced and plays each game? And don't say Vilma, that would be a joke!! He is on a steady decline, to light to actually play the middle, runs from straight on tackles, he had a few good years and thats it, he only has a little more speed than Shanle and don't have much of that left. Most over rated MLB. in the game today in my opinion.

I don't disagree with you one iota about Vilma. But to say Shanle is solid is laughable. The guy is a turtle and has ZERO awareness. Whatever good years he had in him are waaay gone and have been. Look at the video!!! If you think this is the only time he has done this you are just seriously in denial.

For the people saying get rid of Moore..are you serious??? Moore is the ONLY receiver who we have that can make moves after the catch.

We have Colston who is a possession receiver, Henderson/Meachum speed receivers. Arrington...who the hell knows, hasn't played enough to get a good feel but strikes me as another possession receiver.

No way do we get rid of Moore and to say he always hurt is laughable.
2006 played 4 games(just started with us)
2007 played 16 games
2008 played 16 games
2009 played 7 games (hurt)
2010 played 16 games
2011 played 14 games

Doesn't look like a person who is "always" hurt to me.

Halo · 01-16-2012, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

No way do we get rid of Moore and to say he always hurt is laughable.
2006 played 4 games(just started with us)
2007 played 16 games
2008 played 16 games
2009 played 7 games (hurt)
2010 played 16 games
2011 played 14 games

Doesn't look like a person who is "always" hurt to me.

Mike, how many games has Colston played and started in?
I don't know where the stats are... just curious.

CharityMike · 01-16-2012, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

Mike, how many games has Colston played and started in?
I don't know where the stats are... just curious.

I think I know where you are going with this but it really isn't to bad:

2006 played 14 games
2007 played 16 games
2008 played 11 games
2009 played 16 games
2010 played 15 games
2011 played 14 games

01-15-2012, 10:13 PM	#2
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by halloween 65 Vilma needs to go period. Franklin and Rodgers had 1 year contracts= DT in the draft, I want 2, We have DE's so let Smith go, he is overrated. I love Shanle he is solid, but we need youth at the lb. spot, heavy, fast, and hard hitters. Shanle would be a great backup. I like our db.'s probably will be good there although I would keep an eye on Porter, now for the safeties, it's going to depend on the scheme, I love Harper great ss. I can't see him going anywhere, now for Jenkins our 1st round fs. who has played lost all year, lost in G.W. scheme, should get a lot of compitition in training camp and if he can't grasp this scheme write him off, Quaddus will do a better job. Now about the DT's if we draft 2 to get pressure up front it will make our DE's better along with the new lb.'s, win, win. And get rid of Ellis asap, trade, cut, or whatever, waste of time..... Shanle is solid..that's the funniest thing I have read in days..lmfao To the folks that think Colston is not replaceable..remember when he was out a bunch of weeks, I think it was last year, Moore stepped up and did great. Moore is a playmaker.

01-15-2012, 11:14 PM	#3
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 590	Originally Posted by CharityMike Shanle is solid..that's the funniest thing I have read in days..lmfao To the folks that think Colston is not replaceable..remember when he was out a bunch of weeks, I think it was last year, Moore stepped up and did great. Moore is a playmaker. Moore was hurt alot this year too. Colston did great when Moore was out as well.

01-16-2012, 12:01 AM	#4
Donuts32 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Orleans,La Posts: 306	Originally Posted by CharityMike Shanle is solid..that's the funniest thing I have read in days..lmfao To the folks that think Colston is not replaceable..remember when he was out a bunch of weeks, I think it was last year, Moore stepped up and did great. Moore is a playmaker. Moore is good but he does disappear in games sometimes. Colston is irreplaceable in this offense and nobody besides Graham will go over the middle of the field and take the big hits or even go up and get the ball. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-16-2012, 09:50 AM	#5
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Originally Posted by CharityMike Shanle is solid..that's the funniest thing I have read in days..lmfao To the folks that think Colston is not replaceable..remember when he was out a bunch of weeks, I think it was last year, Moore stepped up and did great. Moore is a playmaker. Tell me another lb. that has produced and plays each game? And don't say Vilma, that would be a joke!! He is on a steady decline, to light to actually play the middle, runs from straight on tackles, he had a few good years and thats it, he only has a little more speed than Shanle and don't have much of that left. Most over rated MLB. in the game today in my opinion.

01-16-2012, 10:22 AM	#6
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by halloween 65 Tell me another lb. that has produced and plays each game? And don't say Vilma, that would be a joke!! He is on a steady decline, to light to actually play the middle, runs from straight on tackles, he had a few good years and thats it, he only has a little more speed than Shanle and don't have much of that left. Most over rated MLB. in the game today in my opinion. I don't disagree with you one iota about Vilma. But to say Shanle is solid is laughable. The guy is a turtle and has ZERO awareness. Whatever good years he had in him are waaay gone and have been. Look at the video!!! If you think this is the only time he has done this you are just seriously in denial. For the people saying get rid of Moore..are you serious??? Moore is the ONLY receiver who we have that can make moves after the catch. We have Colston who is a possession receiver, Henderson/Meachum speed receivers. Arrington...who the hell knows, hasn't played enough to get a good feel but strikes me as another possession receiver. No way do we get rid of Moore and to say he always hurt is laughable. 2006 played 4 games(just started with us) 2007 played 16 games 2008 played 16 games 2009 played 7 games (hurt) 2010 played 16 games 2011 played 14 games Doesn't look like a person who is "always" hurt to me. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-15-2012, 06:11 PM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Vilma needs to go period. Franklin and Rodgers had 1 year contracts= DT in the draft, I want 2, We have DE's so let Smith go, he is overrated. I love Shanle he is solid, but we need youth at the lb. spot, heavy, fast, and hard hitters. Shanle would be a great backup. I like our db.'s probably will be good there although I would keep an eye on Porter, now for the safeties, it's going to depend on the scheme, I love Harper great ss. I can't see him going anywhere, now for Jenkins our 1st round fs. who has played lost all year, lost in G.W. scheme, should get a lot of compitition in training camp and if he can't grasp this scheme write him off, Quaddus will do a better job. Now about the DT's if we draft 2 to get pressure up front it will make our DE's better along with the new lb.'s, win, win. And get rid of Ellis asap, trade, cut, or whatever, waste of time.....

01-16-2012, 10:55 AM	#7
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,900 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by CharityMike No way do we get rid of Moore and to say he always hurt is laughable. 2006 played 4 games(just started with us) 2007 played 16 games 2008 played 16 games 2009 played 7 games (hurt) 2010 played 16 games 2011 played 14 games Doesn't look like a person who is "always" hurt to me. Mike, how many games has Colston played and started in? I don't know where the stats are... just curious.

01-16-2012, 11:01 AM	#8
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by Halo Mike, how many games has Colston played and started in? I don't know where the stats are... just curious. I think I know where you are going with this but it really isn't to bad: 2006 played 14 games 2007 played 16 games 2008 played 11 games 2009 played 16 games 2010 played 15 games 2011 played 14 games

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