How do you guys feel about Meachum?

Danno · 01-19-2012, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by jcp026

Meachem doesn't produce like a number 1 because he's not a number 1. Bringing back Colston should be a high priority. I'd support robbing Henderson to pay Meachem.

Meachem made 1.2 million last year which is just over twice the league minimum. He's not gonna cost us much to keep.

Devery is scheduled to make 2.6 million in 2012, which isn't all that much.

I'd prefer to keep both.

papz · 01-19-2012, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I am not a huge fan. He just does not produce like a 1st should. yea yea I know how we spread the ball around, but if Drew trusted him like Colston and Graham he would find a way to get the ball to him more. Just an observation. Long ball shmong ball. Btw did you here that Spags is in town?

I think if Brees trusted Meachem like he did Colston and Graham, then Colston and Graham wouldn't be Colston and Graham.

Rugby Saint II · 01-20-2012, 03:58 PM

I'm saying it again.........we are really going to miss Curtis Johnson as our WR coach.

Boutte · 01-20-2012, 08:23 PM

yeah I think Johnson is going to be the guy we miss most.

I could see Devery moving on. meach can do most of what he does and I think he's a step or two faster at this point. If Morgan is as good as he looked he might be the next hidden gem that we seem to be so good at finding.

gandhi1007 · 01-20-2012, 08:37 PM

Meachem is relatively cheap. Keep him. If you want a list of guys that are eating up cap money that we should lose, here's my take:

#1-Will Smith (This dude is committing grand theft on the Saints)

#2-Sedrick Ellis (Petty larceny, but he's still robbing us)

#3-Shaun Rogers (Dude needs a strict diet plan & it ain't gonna' happen in N.O., although I did see improvement at the end of the year)

#4-Tracy Porter (I don't know what happened after '09, but it ain't there anymore)

#5-Malcolm Jenkins (I had high hopes at FS, but they are dwindling fast)

#6-Scott Shanle (Should be way higher on the list, but he's relatively cheap. Regardless.....he gets beat on a regular basis. Bye!!!!)

Now.......how much money would just those six save us to use in free agency & improve our defense?????

westbankdaze · 01-21-2012, 08:23 AM

I like meachem, but I am not that worried if our receivers skip town. As long as we have Brees he will continue to make our receivers shine.

Saintswrath · 01-21-2012, 08:00 PM

I like your list Gandhi..

Will Smith would be the first person i would drop off somewhere.. Dude production after being signed to a fat contract has fell completely off the side of a cliff, he kinda reminds me of Charles grant before and after the money..
I noticed a lot of players (mostly on the defensive side) get really lazy after their big pay-outs and never seem to find another job after being dumped off a team.

hagan714 · 01-21-2012, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

#5-Malcolm Jenkins (I had high hopes at FS, but they are dwindling fast)

I say a change in defensive philosophy will help his game. Spags maybe the man to bring the best out in him,

As for Mech? he is cheap

thebdj · 01-21-2012, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by xan

In a matchup system offense, a player's effectiveness is highly dependent on playcall, defensive scheme, defensive player and situation. One cannot evaluate any receiver as if they were a #1 option out of the slot every play.

For what system that is employed, and Meachem's skills, I think he is a crucial asset. His speed, his ability to catch the ball in traffic, his ability to turn into a defender - he's prevented a number of dead certain interceptions - makes him indispensable. Plus, he's not a prima donna.

This is absolutely word for word perfect on Robert Meachem. I believe he is an asset we would seriously regret letting go. I also love the spot on how many interceptions he breaks up. I remember one specifically in the Lions game. I turned to the guy next to me and pointed at the big screen and told him to check out Meachem's break-up. Very savvy play!

the-commish · 01-22-2012, 09:22 AM

I would like to keep Meachem, as he can stretch the field.

However, at WR, Colston is priority no 1. Once Colston is locked up, we can think about Meachem, if he still hasn't signed with another team by that time. The whole key is getting the Brees deal done, so the team can work on Nicks and Colston, probably franchising Nicks until he can be signed to a Jahri Evans-type deal. Most teams value tackles (especially LTs) much more than guards. So Nicks may not get unreasonable offers from other teams. If he were a LT (or other teams thought he could play LT well) his offers would be unreasonably high.

Also on Meachem, remember Joseph Morgan (no 13) will be coming off IR. Morgan has the speed at WR, and can also play STs. So losing Meachem might not be that big of a deal.

01-19-2012, 08:59 AM	#21
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by jcp026 Meachem doesn't produce like a number 1 because he's not a number 1. Bringing back Colston should be a high priority. I'd support robbing Henderson to pay Meachem. Meachem made 1.2 million last year which is just over twice the league minimum. He's not gonna cost us much to keep. Devery is scheduled to make 2.6 million in 2012, which isn't all that much. I'd prefer to keep both.

01-19-2012, 09:22 AM	#22
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Originally Posted by The Dude I am not a huge fan. He just does not produce like a 1st should. yea yea I know how we spread the ball around, but if Drew trusted him like Colston and Graham he would find a way to get the ball to him more. Just an observation. Long ball shmong ball. Btw did you here that Spags is in town? I think if Brees trusted Meachem like he did Colston and Graham, then Colston and Graham wouldn't be Colston and Graham.

01-20-2012, 03:58 PM	#23
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	I'm saying it again.........we are really going to miss Curtis Johnson as our WR coach. hagan714 likes this.

01-20-2012, 08:37 PM	#25
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Meachem is relatively cheap. Keep him. If you want a list of guys that are eating up cap money that we should lose, here's my take: #1-Will Smith (This dude is committing grand theft on the Saints) #2-Sedrick Ellis (Petty larceny, but he's still robbing us) #3-Shaun Rogers (Dude needs a strict diet plan & it ain't gonna' happen in N.O., although I did see improvement at the end of the year) #4-Tracy Porter (I don't know what happened after '09, but it ain't there anymore) #5-Malcolm Jenkins (I had high hopes at FS, but they are dwindling fast) #6-Scott Shanle (Should be way higher on the list, but he's relatively cheap. Regardless.....he gets beat on a regular basis. Bye!!!!) Now.......how much money would just those six save us to use in free agency & improve our defense????? Saintswrath, Rugby Saint II and thebdj like this.
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01-21-2012, 08:23 AM	#26
westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	I like meachem, but I am not that worried if our receivers skip town. As long as we have Brees he will continue to make our receivers shine.
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01-20-2012, 08:23 PM	#24
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	yeah I think Johnson is going to be the guy we miss most. I could see Devery moving on. meach can do most of what he does and I think he's a step or two faster at this point. If Morgan is as good as he looked he might be the next hidden gem that we seem to be so good at finding.

01-21-2012, 08:00 PM	#27
Saintswrath +Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Between 504 & 813 Posts: 1,776 Blog Entries: 4	I like your list Gandhi.. Will Smith would be the first person i would drop off somewhere.. Dude production after being signed to a fat contract has fell completely off the side of a cliff, he kinda reminds me of Charles grant before and after the money.. I noticed a lot of players (mostly on the defensive side) get really lazy after their big pay-outs and never seem to find another job after being dumped off a team.

01-21-2012, 08:04 PM	#28
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 #5-Malcolm Jenkins (I had high hopes at FS, but they are dwindling fast) I say a change in defensive philosophy will help his game. Spags maybe the man to bring the best out in him, As for Mech? he is cheap

01-21-2012, 08:31 PM	#29
thebdj 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 272	Originally Posted by xan In a matchup system offense, a player's effectiveness is highly dependent on playcall, defensive scheme, defensive player and situation. One cannot evaluate any receiver as if they were a #1 option out of the slot every play. For what system that is employed, and Meachem's skills, I think he is a crucial asset. His speed, his ability to catch the ball in traffic, his ability to turn into a defender - he's prevented a number of dead certain interceptions - makes him indispensable. Plus, he's not a prima donna. This is absolutely word for word perfect on Robert Meachem. I believe he is an asset we would seriously regret letting go. I also love the spot on how many interceptions he breaks up. I remember one specifically in the Lions game. I turned to the guy next to me and pointed at the big screen and told him to check out Meachem's break-up. Very savvy play!

01-22-2012, 09:22 AM	#30
the-commish Longtime WhoDat Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 529	I would like to keep Meachem, as he can stretch the field. However, at WR, Colston is priority no 1. Once Colston is locked up, we can think about Meachem, if he still hasn't signed with another team by that time. The whole key is getting the Brees deal done, so the team can work on Nicks and Colston, probably franchising Nicks until he can be signed to a Jahri Evans-type deal. Most teams value tackles (especially LTs) much more than guards. So Nicks may not get unreasonable offers from other teams. If he were a LT (or other teams thought he could play LT well) his offers would be unreasonably high. Also on Meachem, remember Joseph Morgan (no 13) will be coming off IR. Morgan has the speed at WR, and can also play STs. So losing Meachem might not be that big of a deal.

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