Ivory a trade candidate?

FinSaint · 02-17-2012, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

No one has forgotten it, but that was an anomaly, and we didn't lose to Seattle because of our running game.

4 starting RB's is BEYOND a luxury... does another NFL team have even 3?
We continue to spend money on offense, and then we cannot stop Hasselback or Smith, or whoever started for the Rams.
These guys are being talked about as trade bait because we have needs elsewhere, and money is very tight this year

Ivory will have a cap hit of $490K next season, so it's not like trading him will create cap room - only reason to trade him would be if the roster spot was desperately needed for someone else.

Sproles' cap hit for 2012 will be around $3.5M, PT's cap hit will be $2.3M, and Ingram's cap hit will be around $810K.

They're all very affordable for what they can (and consistently do) bring to the field every single week and, therefore, there isn't much money to be saved on that front.

Also I could imagine it being fairly expensive if the Saints had to bring in another good/great RB during the season if they were to run into some injury problems, and had earlier let one of these RBs go.

UK_WhoDat · 02-18-2012, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Exactly. Only reason I could think of is to free up a roster spot, I don't see us needing anyone that bad.

Agreed

The Dude · 02-16-2012, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

Trade Candidates

4. Chris Ivory, Saints

Overview: A north-south collision runner completely devoid of passing-game value, Ivory has flourished whenever given opportunities to be the Saints' early-down back. Appearing in 18 games through two years, Ivory has averaged 5.05 yards per carry with six touchdowns. The relentless, take-no-prisoners style has led to an array of injuries, however. Ivory blew out a knee five games into his senior college season. Undrafted in 2010, he missed time as a rookie with an MCL injury, concussion, separated shoulder, and a hamstring strain. Ivory suffered a Lisfranc fracture in his left foot in Week 17. He also underwent hernia surgery during the 2011 offseason and missed one game with another hamstring injury last season. Ivory is only two years into the league, and he's already got a laundry list of medical flags. The Saints will be all ears in regard to trade offers because he's fourth string behind Darren Sproles, Pierre Thomas, and Mark Ingram.

Prediction: Elsewhere before 2012 trade deadline.

Read more (a good article); The 2012 Running Back Market - Offseason Low Down - Rotoworld.com

When is the trade deadline

|Mitch| · 02-16-2012, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

When is the trade deadline

trade deadline is the end of week 6 on the schedule every year, I think...

Rugby Saint II · 02-17-2012, 12:16 PM

Suit 3 up......keep one on the shelf.

voodooido · 02-18-2012, 10:15 AM

He is a poor mans Trent Richardson! KEEP HIM

foreverfan · 02-18-2012, 01:47 PM

Ask Drew what he wants... then do it.

AlaskaSaints · 02-18-2012, 02:55 PM

You guys are CRAZY for wanting to trade Ivory. Ingram will not match his averages or he would have done so.

Alaska

voodooido · 02-21-2012, 11:24 AM

Yep, Ingram missed half of his rookie season but he is a iron man. You may be the only Saints fan alive that thinks Ingram outpayed Ivory

Danno · 02-21-2012, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Yep, Ingram missed half of his rookie season but he is a iron man. You may be the only Saints fan alive that thinks Ingram outpayed Ivory

Who are you quoting? I didn't see anyone say either of those things.

Are you making stuff up or did I miss something?

02-17-2012, 12:06 PM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by ScottF No one has forgotten it, but that was an anomaly, and we didn't lose to Seattle because of our running game. 4 starting RB's is BEYOND a luxury... does another NFL team have even 3? We continue to spend money on offense, and then we cannot stop Hasselback or Smith, or whoever started for the Rams. These guys are being talked about as trade bait because we have needs elsewhere, and money is very tight this year Ivory will have a cap hit of $490K next season, so it's not like trading him will create cap room - only reason to trade him would be if the roster spot was desperately needed for someone else. Sproles' cap hit for 2012 will be around $3.5M, PT's cap hit will be $2.3M, and Ingram's cap hit will be around $810K. They're all very affordable for what they can (and consistently do) bring to the field every single week and, therefore, there isn't much money to be saved on that front. Also I could imagine it being fairly expensive if the Saints had to bring in another good/great RB during the season if they were to run into some injury problems, and had earlier let one of these RBs go.
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02-18-2012, 11:44 AM	#2
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Originally Posted by The Dude Exactly. Only reason I could think of is to free up a roster spot, I don't see us needing anyone that bad. Agreed

02-16-2012, 10:15 PM	#3
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Originally Posted by biloxi-indian Trade Candidates 4. Chris Ivory, Saints Overview: A north-south collision runner completely devoid of passing-game value, Ivory has flourished whenever given opportunities to be the Saints' early-down back. Appearing in 18 games through two years, Ivory has averaged 5.05 yards per carry with six touchdowns. The relentless, take-no-prisoners style has led to an array of injuries, however. Ivory blew out a knee five games into his senior college season. Undrafted in 2010, he missed time as a rookie with an MCL injury, concussion, separated shoulder, and a hamstring strain. Ivory suffered a Lisfranc fracture in his left foot in Week 17. He also underwent hernia surgery during the 2011 offseason and missed one game with another hamstring injury last season. Ivory is only two years into the league, and he's already got a laundry list of medical flags. The Saints will be all ears in regard to trade offers because he's fourth string behind Darren Sproles, Pierre Thomas, and Mark Ingram. Prediction: Elsewhere before 2012 trade deadline. Read more (a good article); The 2012 Running Back Market - Offseason Low Down - Rotoworld.com When is the trade deadline
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02-16-2012, 10:31 PM	#4
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by The Dude When is the trade deadline trade deadline is the end of week 6 on the schedule every year, I think...

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AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	You guys are CRAZY for wanting to trade Ivory. Ingram will not match his averages or he would have done so. Alaska voodooido likes this.

02-21-2012, 11:24 AM	#9
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,839	Yep, Ingram missed half of his rookie season but he is a iron man. You may be the only Saints fan alive that thinks Ingram outpayed Ivory
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02-21-2012, 12:57 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by voodooido Yep, Ingram missed half of his rookie season but he is a iron man. You may be the only Saints fan alive that thinks Ingram outpayed Ivory Who are you quoting? I didn't see anyone say either of those things. Are you making stuff up or did I miss something?

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