Ivory a trade candidate?

voodooido · 02-21-2012, 12:24 PM

Yep, Ingram missed half of his rookie season but he is a iron man. You may be the only Saints fan alive that thinks Ingram outpayed Ivory

voodooido · 02-21-2012, 12:29 PM

Ingram had 474 yards on 122 carries his rookie year.

Ivroy had 716 yards on 137 carries his rookie year.

Its called simple math

FinSaint · 02-21-2012, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Ingram had 474 yards on 122 carries his rookie year.

Ivroy had 716 yards on 137 carries his rookie year.

Its called simple math

Simple is the correct word for that math.

The situation was quite different when Ivory had his rookie carries as opposed to Ingram's carries this past season - many of which were in short yardage situations mind you.

Just looking at those numbers alone will never give you a fair assessment of their individual rookie seasons.

Also, I don't know if Danno was as much stating that Ingram outplayed Ivory, but that with Ivory's injury history he has very limited trade value.

Danno · 02-21-2012, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Yep, Ingram missed half of his rookie season but he is a iron man. You may be the only Saints fan alive that thinks Ingram outpayed Ivory

Who are you quoting? I didn't see anyone say either of those things.

Are you making stuff up or did I miss something?

voodooido · 02-22-2012, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Who are you quoting? I didn't see anyone say either of those things.

Are you making stuff up or did I miss something?

You said compared to Ivory they are Iron men. Ivory has out played Ingram period.

Danno · 02-22-2012, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

You said compared to Ivory they are Iron men. Ivory has out played Ingram period.

Thats not what I said.

voodooido · 02-22-2012, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Ivory was injured his entire college career, and was injured in every game he played in the NFL in 2010, then had lizfranc surgery after the season ended (which has ended many careers), then got hurt while rehabbing that injury and was on PUP for the 1st 6 games of 2011.

Ingram and Thomas are Brett Favre-like ironmen compared to Ivory.

That is exactly what you said.

Danno · 02-22-2012, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

That is exactly what you said.

No it isn't. I was comparing their injury history throughout their entire careers. I was comparing THAT to Ingram and Thomas.

Here is "exactly" what I said...

Ivory was injured his entire college career, and was injured in every game he played in the NFL in 2010, then had lizfranc surgery after the season ended (which has ended many careers), then got hurt while rehabbing that injury and was on PUP for the 1st 6 games of 2011.
Ingram and Thomas are Brett Favre-like ironmen compared to Ivory.

And I said nothing about who has outplayed who.

Luda34 · 02-22-2012, 12:30 PM

I wouldn't get rid of Ivory until Ingram prove that he is worthy a first round pick.

voodooido · 02-22-2012, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

No it isn't. I was comparing their injury history throughout their entire careers. I was comparing THAT to Ingram and Thomas.

Here is "exactly" what I said...

And I said nothing about who has outplayed who.

yeh, i said the second sentence. Which is trus

02-21-2012, 12:24 PM	#31
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,770	Yep, Ingram missed half of his rookie season but he is a iron man. You may be the only Saints fan alive that thinks Ingram outpayed Ivory
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02-21-2012, 12:29 PM	#32
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,770	Ingram had 474 yards on 122 carries his rookie year. Ivroy had 716 yards on 137 carries his rookie year. Its called simple math
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02-21-2012, 01:37 PM	#33
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by voodooido Ingram had 474 yards on 122 carries his rookie year. Ivroy had 716 yards on 137 carries his rookie year. Its called simple math Simple is the correct word for that math. The situation was quite different when Ivory had his rookie carries as opposed to Ingram's carries this past season - many of which were in short yardage situations mind you. Just looking at those numbers alone will never give you a fair assessment of their individual rookie seasons. Also, I don't know if Danno was as much stating that Ingram outplayed Ivory, but that with Ivory's injury history he has very limited trade value.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by voodooido Yep, Ingram missed half of his rookie season but he is a iron man. You may be the only Saints fan alive that thinks Ingram outpayed Ivory Who are you quoting? I didn't see anyone say either of those things. Are you making stuff up or did I miss something?

02-22-2012, 07:56 AM	#35
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,770	Originally Posted by Danno Who are you quoting? I didn't see anyone say either of those things. Are you making stuff up or did I miss something? You said compared to Ivory they are Iron men. Ivory has out played Ingram period.
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02-22-2012, 08:59 AM	#36
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by voodooido You said compared to Ivory they are Iron men. Ivory has out played Ingram period. Thats not what I said.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,770	Originally Posted by Danno Ivory was injured his entire college career, and was injured in every game he played in the NFL in 2010, then had lizfranc surgery after the season ended (which has ended many careers), then got hurt while rehabbing that injury and was on PUP for the 1st 6 games of 2011. Ingram and Thomas are Brett Favre-like ironmen compared to Ivory. That is exactly what you said.
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02-22-2012, 10:27 AM	#38
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by voodooido That is exactly what you said. No it isn't. I was comparing their injury history throughout their entire careers. I was comparing THAT to Ingram and Thomas. Here is "exactly" what I said... Ivory was injured his entire college career, and was injured in every game he played in the NFL in 2010, then had lizfranc surgery after the season ended (which has ended many careers), then got hurt while rehabbing that injury and was on PUP for the 1st 6 games of 2011. Ingram and Thomas are Brett Favre-like ironmen compared to Ivory. And I said nothing about who has outplayed who.

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Luda34 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 1,219	I wouldn't get rid of Ivory until Ingram prove that he is worthy a first round pick.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,770	Originally Posted by Danno No it isn't. I was comparing their injury history throughout their entire careers. I was comparing THAT to Ingram and Thomas. Here is "exactly" what I said... And I said nothing about who has outplayed who. yeh, i said the second sentence. Which is trus
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