Those Tricky Broncos

turbo_dog · 04-10-2004, 12:09 AM

Quentin Griffin
Garrison Hearst
Mike Anderson
Ruben Droughns
Every running back they start has a 1000 yard season.

You might be right about Jackson, but it wouldn\'t make much sense to me because they have other needs where there will be good players at 17.

Cadillac · 04-10-2004, 05:41 AM

I know they have other needs, I just haven\'t been able to figure out who else they have been tryin to get ahead of...

At first I thought maybe they were trying to secure Ben Troupe (as Sharpe will retire this year or next) but not one team between 24 and 17 had any TE need other than the broncos.

So if not Steven Jackson, who? Randy Starks would of been there at 24. Even at 17, theres no guarentee that Reggie Williams or Vince Wilfork will fall....

So no, maybe RB may not be their biggest need, but the Broncos wanting Jackson is the best explanation as for why they traded up.

WhoDat · 04-10-2004, 08:35 AM

Maybe they were trying to get ahead of us. WR, LB, DT... that sounds a whole lot like our needs except for CB.

no_cloning · 04-10-2004, 08:43 AM

Randy Starks would of been there at 24.

Bold prediction. I looked at 9 mock drafts that had not been updated since yesterday and NONE had Starks falling past the Seahawks (and only 2 had him falling that far).
Starks has now risen from 23 to 17 in my mock.
Denver\'s team needs (in my opinion):
1. DT
2. WR
3. OLB

Danno · 04-10-2004, 08:47 AM

Denver has probably targeted 4 or 5 players they want and know they will ALL be gone at 24, but 1 or 2 would still be there at 17.
RB-Jackson
DT-Starks
QB-Rivers
DE-Will Smith
WR-R. Williams

I doubt its a CB. Two high dollar CB\'s on that D doesn\'t make sense, since their D-line needs the most help.
LB maybe, but there are some good ones that would have been there at 24 like Lehman, Dansby.

ami2kind4words · 04-10-2004, 12:28 PM

I doubt its a CB. Two high dollar CB\'s on that D doesn\'t make sense, since their D-line needs the most help.

Who are the top dollars CB\'s?

1.Lenny Walls FA 02\'
2.Kelly Herndon OFA SF 99\' Broncos FA 02\'
3.Jimmy Spencer D8 WSH 91\' (most likely assistant secondary coach 04\')
4.Willie Middlebrook D1 01\' (switched to safety)
5.Scott Turner FA Bills 03\'

ami2kind4words · 04-10-2004, 12:40 PM

I think they want either Starks(DT) or a LB.

I assume they could drafted Starks with the 24th pick, chances now he will slip into the 2nd rd.

Cadillac · 04-10-2004, 01:00 PM

Who are the top dollars CB\'s?

1.Lenny Walls FA 02\'
2.Kelly Herndon OFA SF 99\' Broncos FA 02\'
3.Jimmy Spencer D8 WSH 91\' (most likely assistant secondary coach 04\')
4.Willie Middlebrook D1 01\' (switched to safety)
5.Scott Turner FA Bills 03\'

Hahhahaha I would call Champ Bailey they\'re top dollar CB.

turbo_dog · 04-10-2004, 02:11 PM

Yeah, I think Champ Bailey qualifies.

Quentin Griffin
Garrison Hearst
Mike Anderson
Ruben Droughns
Every running back they start has a 1000 yard season.

oh yeah, add
Ahmad Galloway
Cecil Sapp
Santonio Beard

Lots of people have Shawn Andrews slipping to Miami. Denver might want a lineman, defense or offense.

iceshack149 · 04-10-2004, 02:28 PM

The Saints don\'t need a running back and defensive end isn\'t a need either so I hope that this article is right on.

http://vikings.theinsiders.com/2/250631.html

You have to give the Broncos credit. If they want a running back, they successfully moved ahead of the two teams that are targeting the top RBs available. If they want someone like Will Smith, they have forced the hand of the Cowboys and Patriots with the mere threat of moving ahead of them, burn a pick on a RB and give Smith a better chance to fall to them at No. 17. What Mike Shanahan and the Broncos draft posse have done is turn up the heat on the how the 2004 draft will shake out. ItÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s brilliant and didnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t cost them much.

The sad thing is that there is a high probability that the Vikes could have moved up two spots simply by packaging Denard Walker and the No. 19 pick to move up. Now, the Broncos hold the cards and the Cowboys or Patriots either have to move ahead of them to get a running back or play the waiting game. Either way, the Vikes are now out of the equation.

04-10-2004, 12:09 AM	#11
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Those Tricky Broncos Quentin Griffin Garrison Hearst Mike Anderson Ruben Droughns Every running back they start has a 1000 yard season. You might be right about Jackson, but it wouldn\'t make much sense to me because they have other needs where there will be good players at 17.

04-10-2004, 05:41 AM	#12
Cadillac 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 121	Those Tricky Broncos I know they have other needs, I just haven\'t been able to figure out who else they have been tryin to get ahead of... At first I thought maybe they were trying to secure Ben Troupe (as Sharpe will retire this year or next) but not one team between 24 and 17 had any TE need other than the broncos. So if not Steven Jackson, who? Randy Starks would of been there at 24. Even at 17, theres no guarentee that Reggie Williams or Vince Wilfork will fall.... So no, maybe RB may not be their biggest need, but the Broncos wanting Jackson is the best explanation as for why they traded up.
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04-10-2004, 08:35 AM	#13
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Those Tricky Broncos Maybe they were trying to get ahead of us. WR, LB, DT... that sounds a whole lot like our needs except for CB.
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no_cloning 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 249	Those Tricky Broncos Randy Starks would of been there at 24. Bold prediction. I looked at 9 mock drafts that had not been updated since yesterday and NONE had Starks falling past the Seahawks (and only 2 had him falling that far). Starks has now risen from 23 to 17 in my mock. Denver\'s team needs (in my opinion): 1. DT 2. WR 3. OLB
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Those Tricky Broncos Denver has probably targeted 4 or 5 players they want and know they will ALL be gone at 24, but 1 or 2 would still be there at 17. RB-Jackson DT-Starks QB-Rivers DE-Will Smith WR-R. Williams I doubt its a CB. Two high dollar CB\'s on that D doesn\'t make sense, since their D-line needs the most help. LB maybe, but there are some good ones that would have been there at 24 like Lehman, Dansby.

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ami2kind4words 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 149	Those Tricky Broncos I doubt its a CB. Two high dollar CB\'s on that D doesn\'t make sense, since their D-line needs the most help. Who are the top dollars CB\'s? 1.Lenny Walls FA 02\' 2.Kelly Herndon OFA SF 99\' Broncos FA 02\' 3.Jimmy Spencer D8 WSH 91\' (most likely assistant secondary coach 04\') 4.Willie Middlebrook D1 01\' (switched to safety) 5.Scott Turner FA Bills 03\'
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04-10-2004, 12:40 PM	#17
ami2kind4words 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 149	Those Tricky Broncos I think they want either Starks(DT) or a LB. I assume they could drafted Starks with the 24th pick, chances now he will slip into the 2nd rd.
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04-10-2004, 01:00 PM	#18
Cadillac 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 121	Those Tricky Broncos Who are the top dollars CB\'s? 1.Lenny Walls FA 02\' 2.Kelly Herndon OFA SF 99\' Broncos FA 02\' 3.Jimmy Spencer D8 WSH 91\' (most likely assistant secondary coach 04\') 4.Willie Middlebrook D1 01\' (switched to safety) 5.Scott Turner FA Bills 03\' Hahhahaha I would call Champ Bailey they\'re top dollar CB.
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04-10-2004, 02:11 PM	#19
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Those Tricky Broncos Yeah, I think Champ Bailey qualifies. Quentin Griffin Garrison Hearst Mike Anderson Ruben Droughns Every running back they start has a 1000 yard season. oh yeah, add Ahmad Galloway Cecil Sapp Santonio Beard Lots of people have Shawn Andrews slipping to Miami. Denver might want a lineman, defense or offense.

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Those Tricky Broncos The Saints don\'t need a running back and defensive end isn\'t a need either so I hope that this article is right on. http://vikings.theinsiders.com/2/250631.html You have to give the Broncos credit. If they want a running back, they successfully moved ahead of the two teams that are targeting the top RBs available. If they want someone like Will Smith, they have forced the hand of the Cowboys and Patriots with the mere threat of moving ahead of them, burn a pick on a RB and give Smith a better chance to fall to them at No. 17. What Mike Shanahan and the Broncos draft posse have done is turn up the heat on the how the 2004 draft will shake out. ItÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s brilliant and didnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t cost them much. The sad thing is that there is a high probability that the Vikes could have moved up two spots simply by packaging Denard Walker and the No. 19 pick to move up. Now, the Broncos hold the cards and the Cowboys or Patriots either have to move ahead of them to get a running back or play the waiting game. Either way, the Vikes are now out of the equation.
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