New York Giants admit to doing exactly the same thing as the New Orleans Saints!

QBREES9 · 04-06-2012, 10:36 PM

It comes down to it they were told to stop and they didn't, plain and simple. Oh yeah and they LIED !!!!!!!

The Dude · 04-07-2012, 01:10 PM

I thin k the NFL is not being unfair. Our punishment is a little harsh on sP and Loomis but besides that we deserve everything we get. They should be punished. If this happened to the Falcons we would be crying for a lifetime ban. Williams went above and beyond just coaching up our team. There is no room for what he did in the league. I hope they do find he was a rogue coach, but I doubt that was the case. Yes other teams do it, but we got caught.

The Dude · 04-07-2012, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsRule11

I don't know if anyone caught this, but there was a blurb I just read on nfl.com that indicated that Giants' players had discussions about "taking out" Kyle Williams prior to the NFC Championship Game. There were conversations about his history of concussions and how if they hit him real hard they could either get him carted off or at least rattle him.

Is this not the EXACT same thing he-who-must-not-be-named discussed with his defensive players prior to the Saints' divisional matchup with the San Francisco 49ers?

"The thing is, we knew (Kyle Williams) had four concussions," Jacquian Williams told NYMag.com after the game. "So that was our biggest thing -- was to take him out of the game."

Here is a link to the nfl.com article: NFL.com news: Flashback: Giants targeted 49ers' Williams in playoffs

And here is a link to the nymag.com article: Did Giants Strategically Concuss Kyle Williams? -- The Sports Section

Call me crazy, but aren't the Saints just being singled out for sh*t that the entire league seems to endorse behind closed doors? I mean, I realize that the Gregg Williams audio is horrible and all, but my thinking is that the Saints are just the ones who got caught.

(cross-posted at canalstreetchronicles)

They have not proven any money changed hands and they didn't lie about it.

PatMcIrish · 04-07-2012, 01:49 PM

The Dude bringing the HEAT!!

Props for being objective. It can be tough when it's your team but try and keep in mind what you would think if it was an opponent. Or if something had happened. I said before but if Brees was taken out after someone like GW did his thing I would be sickened by it! Football is a man's game, you do hit hard, you don't wear skirts, but you don't go out with the mindset you want to injure other players. That was wrong, everyone involved should be punished regardless of who else may or may not be doing the same thing.

SaintPauly · 04-07-2012, 02:13 PM

Im not defending Williams, but where in this recording was compensation actually mentioned? Meaning, where exactly did Williams say, "you will get paid if you do this."? In court, this is called "circumstantial evidence".

saintfan · 04-07-2012, 03:54 PM

Point>Reiper...and that's pretty much game set & match right there...

blackangold · 04-07-2012, 06:38 PM

STOP FEEDING THE TROLL

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B005TED · 04-10-2012, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

STOP FEEDING THE TROLL

/ENDTHREAD

I totally agree.

TheOak · 04-10-2012, 12:13 PM

Hey Pat:

We do not need video of other teams... There is open admission of it.

The Redskins Had A Bounty On Roger Staubach In 1974 | NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth

NFL.com news: Pierce: 'We always knew who was injured'
"I've heard that speech from seven of the defensive coordinators I've played with in my nine-year career," Pierce told ESPN this week"

So lets see.. 7 of 9 Defensive coordinators... And going back to 1974....

So hell yes we were singled out.

I am not singling you out.

TheOak · 04-10-2012, 12:24 PM

Stop feeding the feeders.

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04-07-2012, 01:10 PM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,064	I thin k the NFL is not being unfair. Our punishment is a little harsh on sP and Loomis but besides that we deserve everything we get. They should be punished. If this happened to the Falcons we would be crying for a lifetime ban. Williams went above and beyond just coaching up our team. There is no room for what he did in the league. I hope they do find he was a rogue coach, but I doubt that was the case. Yes other teams do it, but we got caught. pherein likes this.
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04-07-2012, 01:11 PM	#3
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,064	Originally Posted by SaintsRule11 I don't know if anyone caught this, but there was a blurb I just read on nfl.com that indicated that Giants' players had discussions about "taking out" Kyle Williams prior to the NFC Championship Game. There were conversations about his history of concussions and how if they hit him real hard they could either get him carted off or at least rattle him. Is this not the EXACT same thing he-who-must-not-be-named discussed with his defensive players prior to the Saints' divisional matchup with the San Francisco 49ers? "The thing is, we knew (Kyle Williams) had four concussions," Jacquian Williams told NYMag.com after the game. "So that was our biggest thing -- was to take him out of the game." Here is a link to the nfl.com article: NFL.com news: Flashback: Giants targeted 49ers' Williams in playoffs And here is a link to the nymag.com article: Did Giants Strategically Concuss Kyle Williams? -- The Sports Section Call me crazy, but aren't the Saints just being singled out for sh*t that the entire league seems to endorse behind closed doors? I mean, I realize that the Gregg Williams audio is horrible and all, but my thinking is that the Saints are just the ones who got caught. (cross-posted at canalstreetchronicles) They have not proven any money changed hands and they didn't lie about it.
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04-07-2012, 01:49 PM	#4
PatMcIrish Rookie Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 16	The Dude bringing the HEAT!! Props for being objective. It can be tough when it's your team but try and keep in mind what you would think if it was an opponent. Or if something had happened. I said before but if Brees was taken out after someone like GW did his thing I would be sickened by it! Football is a man's game, you do hit hard, you don't wear skirts, but you don't go out with the mindset you want to injure other players. That was wrong, everyone involved should be punished regardless of who else may or may not be doing the same thing.
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04-10-2012, 12:23 PM	#8
B005TED Who Dat!!??!! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: AThelL Posts: 177	Originally Posted by blackangold STOP FEEDING THE TROLL /ENDTHREAD I totally agree.

04-06-2012, 10:36 PM	#1
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	It comes down to it they were told to stop and they didn't, plain and simple. Oh yeah and they LIED !!!!!!!

04-07-2012, 02:13 PM	#5
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Im not defending Williams, but where in this recording was compensation actually mentioned? Meaning, where exactly did Williams say, "you will get paid if you do this."? In court, this is called "circumstantial evidence".

04-07-2012, 03:54 PM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Point>Reiper...and that's pretty much game set & match right there...

04-07-2012, 06:38 PM	#7
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	STOP FEEDING THE TROLL /ENDTHREAD

04-10-2012, 12:13 PM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Hey Pat: We do not need video of other teams... There is open admission of it. The Redskins Had A Bounty On Roger Staubach In 1974 \| NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth NFL.com news: Pierce: 'We always knew who was injured' "I've heard that speech from seven of the defensive coordinators I've played with in my nine-year career," Pierce told ESPN this week" So lets see.. 7 of 9 Defensive coordinators... And going back to 1974.... So hell yes we were singled out. I am not singling you out.
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04-10-2012, 12:24 PM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Stop feeding the feeders.

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