Draft Grades - Walter Football, not too bad

Danno · 04-28-2012, 09:49 PM

New Orleans Saints

89. Akiem Hicks, NT, Canada: C Grade
The Saints needed defensive tackle help, but Akiem Hicks was a bit of a reach at this juncture. No major big board had him in the top 125. The good news though is that Hicks has enormous upside, so maybe the Saints can turn him into a good player. He's worth the gamble.

122. Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin: A Grade
Nick Toon could have gone in the third round, so the Saints are getting really good value with him. They're also filling a need because Robert Meachem defected for San Diego.

162. Corey White, S, Samford: D Grade
I don't give out F grades on Day 3. If I did, this would be an F. No major big board had Corey White in the top 500. I didn't think he would even be a priority UDFA.

179. Andrew Tiller, G, Syracuse: B- Grade
The Saints had no depth at guard. This is a bit early for Andrew Tiller, but that's not a major deal in Round 6.

234. Marcel Jones, OT, Nebraska: B Grade
The Saints were looking to upgrade their offensive tackle depth. Marcel Jones is a decent selection. He fits the range and addresses that aforementioned area.

WalterFootball.com: 2012 NFL Offseason Page - New Orleans Saints - Team Needs, Season Preview, Free Agents, Salary Cap

Oh well, we can always revert to the old "gotta trust our front office" cliches.

|Mitch| · 04-28-2012, 09:52 PM

The D grade for White is expected, but Spagnoulo seemed pretty happy about getting him...

lynwood · 04-28-2012, 09:57 PM

See me in two years for the actual grades.....

dueceloose · 04-28-2012, 10:17 PM

Isnt to early for grades when we havent even see them play or practice.

nicebush25 · 04-28-2012, 11:50 PM

grades are based on value for the pick. its like the market, buy low and sell high. saints were buying high imo

Euphoria · 04-29-2012, 12:08 AM

Then that makes the grades even less of value because... who is to say what value is???

Value means NOTHING. Its how the players will be and develop into NFL players, how they contribute.

If that is your guy F$%K what everyone says you take the player. In 3-4 years that is when the grades mean something... did you fail or did you win with the pick/player.

saintfan · 04-29-2012, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by lynwood

See me in two years for the actual grades.....

I know, right? I know some fans get all worked up over the draft and get themselves all in a tizzy over taking this guy or that guy or the other guy. It's cool. Whatever butters your bread...

But I don't sweat it...ever. First, it's just too dang much to keep up with all the players and second, as you say, it'll be two years, at least, before the draft can be graded...and third, it's very much like going to Vegas and playing roulette. Sure fire prospects bomb out all the time, and guys nobody ever heard of do well.

I guess it's fun to speculate, but frankly I'd rather play roulette...

hagan714 · 04-29-2012, 01:56 AM

i believe in reaching by all means but the saints imo reached by rounds not a round, but then again like it has been said see me in two years.

from what i see today i do not see a great improvement in the team in the secondary. Porter will be missed and the saints did nothing to fill the void. nothing. Safety is unchanged. Nothing really to get excited about, they are all the same type of players.

Front 7 on defense is better through FA and the draft gave us a project and hope.

Offense goes unchanged, But they have added another good set of hands for Drew. That is always good. OL has depth added.

well let camp start and see what we got.

see me in two years.

Danno · 04-29-2012, 09:22 AM

If we received A's across the board we'd be pimping these grades left and right.

AsylumGuido · 04-29-2012, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

i believe in reaching by all means but the saints imo reached by rounds not a round, but then again like it has been said see me in two years.

from what i see today i do not see a great improvement in the team in the secondary. Porter will be missed and the saints did nothing to fill the void. nothing. Safety is unchanged. Nothing really to get excited about, they are all the same type of players.

Front 7 on defense is better through FA and the draft gave us a project and hope.

Offense goes unchanged, But they have added another good set of hands for Drew. That is always good. OL has depth added.

well let camp start and see what we got.

see me in two years.

I disagree. We added Spagnuolo to the secondary, or more precisely, his scheme. I feel he will make our existing pieces more successful right away.

04-28-2012, 09:49 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Draft Grades - Walter Football, not too bad New Orleans Saints 89. Akiem Hicks, NT, Canada: C Grade The Saints needed defensive tackle help, but Akiem Hicks was a bit of a reach at this juncture. No major big board had him in the top 125. The good news though is that Hicks has enormous upside, so maybe the Saints can turn him into a good player. He's worth the gamble. 122. Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin: A Grade Nick Toon could have gone in the third round, so the Saints are getting really good value with him. They're also filling a need because Robert Meachem defected for San Diego. 162. Corey White, S, Samford: D Grade I don't give out F grades on Day 3. If I did, this would be an F. No major big board had Corey White in the top 500. I didn't think he would even be a priority UDFA. 179. Andrew Tiller, G, Syracuse: B- Grade The Saints had no depth at guard. This is a bit early for Andrew Tiller, but that's not a major deal in Round 6. 234. Marcel Jones, OT, Nebraska: B Grade The Saints were looking to upgrade their offensive tackle depth. Marcel Jones is a decent selection. He fits the range and addresses that aforementioned area. WalterFootball.com: 2012 NFL Offseason Page - New Orleans Saints - Team Needs, Season Preview, Free Agents, Salary Cap Oh well, we can always revert to the old "gotta trust our front office" cliches.

04-28-2012, 10:17 PM	#4
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04-28-2012, 11:50 PM	#5
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04-29-2012, 12:30 AM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by lynwood See me in two years for the actual grades..... I know, right? I know some fans get all worked up over the draft and get themselves all in a tizzy over taking this guy or that guy or the other guy. It's cool. Whatever butters your bread... But I don't sweat it...ever. First, it's just too dang much to keep up with all the players and second, as you say, it'll be two years, at least, before the draft can be graded...and third, it's very much like going to Vegas and playing roulette. Sure fire prospects bomb out all the time, and guys nobody ever heard of do well. I guess it's fun to speculate, but frankly I'd rather play roulette...
	C'mon Man...

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	i believe in reaching by all means but the saints imo reached by rounds not a round, but then again like it has been said see me in two years. from what i see today i do not see a great improvement in the team in the secondary. Porter will be missed and the saints did nothing to fill the void. nothing. Safety is unchanged. Nothing really to get excited about, they are all the same type of players. Front 7 on defense is better through FA and the draft gave us a project and hope. Offense goes unchanged, But they have added another good set of hands for Drew. That is always good. OL has depth added. well let camp start and see what we got. see me in two years. jeanpierre likes this.
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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	The D grade for White is expected, but Spagnoulo seemed pretty happy about getting him...

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Then that makes the grades even less of value because... who is to say what value is??? Value means NOTHING. Its how the players will be and develop into NFL players, how they contribute. If that is your guy F$%K what everyone says you take the player. In 3-4 years that is when the grades mean something... did you fail or did you win with the pick/player.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	If we received A's across the board we'd be pimping these grades left and right. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Originally Posted by hagan714 i believe in reaching by all means but the saints imo reached by rounds not a round, but then again like it has been said see me in two years. from what i see today i do not see a great improvement in the team in the secondary. Porter will be missed and the saints did nothing to fill the void. nothing. Safety is unchanged. Nothing really to get excited about, they are all the same type of players. Front 7 on defense is better through FA and the draft gave us a project and hope. Offense goes unchanged, But they have added another good set of hands for Drew. That is always good. OL has depth added. well let camp start and see what we got. see me in two years. I disagree. We added Spagnuolo to the secondary, or more precisely, his scheme. I feel he will make our existing pieces more successful right away. jeanpierre likes this.

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