The Union Weighs in On Player Punishments

TheOak · 05-04-2012, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I don't deny the shades of gray. And I'm no lawyer. I do however know that "at will" doesn't apply.

I maintain that if Roger wants to in essence "terminate" Vilma for 16 games or 1 he should be required to show evidence of why, at the very least to Vilma, and this has not been done. It isn't right. Period.

Actually "at will" does apply here. From the 2011 CBA.

1 5. INTEGRITY OF GAME. Player recognizes the detriment to the League and professional
football that would result from impairment of public confidence in the honest
and orderly conduct of NFL games or the integrity and good character of NFL players. Player therefore acknowledges his awareness that if he accepts a bribe or agrees to throw
or fix an NFL game; fails to promptly report a brib e offer or an attempt to throw or fix an NFL game; bets on an NFL game; knowingly associates with gamblers or gambling
activity; uses or provides other players with stimulants or other drugs for the purpose of attempting to enhance on-field performance; or is guilty of any other form of conduct reasonably judged by the League Commissioner to be detrimental to the League or professional football, the Commissioner will have the right, but only after giving Player the opportunity for a hearing at which he may be represented by counsel of his choice, to fine Player in a reasonable amount; to suspend Player for a period certain or indefinitely; and/ or to terminate this contract.

The NFLPA gave Goodell all encompassing power based on his "judgement/opinion".

If the NFLPA takes this to court, a judge is not going to decide weather the punishment was too harsh or not. The judge is going to rule on weather Goodell has the rights that this contract bestowed on him.

05-04-2012, 07:22 AM	#31
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Originally Posted by saintfan I don't deny the shades of gray. And I'm no lawyer. I do however know that "at will" doesn't apply. I maintain that if Roger wants to in essence "terminate" Vilma for 16 games or 1 he should be required to show evidence of why, at the very least to Vilma, and this has not been done. It isn't right. Period. Actually "at will" does apply here. From the 2011 CBA. 1 5. INTEGRITY OF GAME. Player recognizes the detriment to the League and professional football that would result from impairment of public confidence in the honest and orderly conduct of NFL games or the integrity and good character of NFL players. Player therefore acknowledges his awareness that if he accepts a bribe or agrees to throw or fix an NFL game; fails to promptly report a brib e offer or an attempt to throw or fix an NFL game; bets on an NFL game; knowingly associates with gamblers or gambling activity; uses or provides other players with stimulants or other drugs for the purpose of attempting to enhance on-field performance; or is guilty of any other form of conduct reasonably judged by the League Commissioner to be detrimental to the League or professional football, the Commissioner will have the right, but only after giving Player the opportunity for a hearing at which he may be represented by counsel of his choice, to fine Player in a reasonable amount; to suspend Player for a period certain or indefinitely; and/ or to terminate this contract. The NFLPA gave Goodell all encompassing power based on his "judgement/opinion". If the NFLPA takes this to court, a judge is not going to decide weather the punishment was too harsh or not. The judge is going to rule on weather Goodell has the rights that this contract bestowed on him.
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