Darren Sproles vs. Reggie Bush: Who's the superior weapon?

The Dude · 07-18-2012, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Really guy? 'crack coated pubic hair covering his eyes', I expect that kind of garbage on a Detroit board or an Atlanta board, but not on B&G. You disappoint me ... the stats I'm reading are posted in my reply to 'the Dude' ... feel free to analyze them yourself.

Rushing average ... number of carries figures into this, Bush consistenly had more carries per season and thus his APC will be lower ... you conveniently left out # of touchdowns also.

Receiving average ... again, you're not looking at number of receptions, if I catch 1 pass for 70yds and you catch 3 passes of 75yds, 20yds and 10yds, who has the better receiving average? Where's the YPG stat on both these guys?

Punt Return average ... touche', I guess ... apples & oranges, don't care about punt returns, I'm focusing on the run game.

Why is it a debate? ... probably because it's the offseason, bountygate is winding down & Drew has signed ... it's really not, in every post I chose Sproles over Bush, IDK why it's being perceived I'm backing Reggie Bush so much ... the mere fact he dated Kim Kardashian and I was subjected to seeing the camera pan over to her during a few games is enough to nauseate me & turn me against Reggie forever ... I was just pointing out that both backs experienced the best seasons of their career after leaving their respective teams and the change of scenery obviously did them some good ... it's one of those intangibles I like to focus on and whereas Bush may statistically be the better back, he's not the best back for New Orleans ... Sproles is, but that's not to say Bush isn't productive somewhere else, because he is ... in Miami.

Advantage: still New Orleans/Sproles.

Now get off me.

I would rather have someone that actually gets yards all year round than a guy who may have a higher "rushing average" for 8 games. This is about real production not stats. Stats do not matter one bit it just gives nerds something to argue about when they are wrong. Winning and producing is what counts not stats.

Danno · 07-18-2012, 07:46 AM

Rushing- I'll take Sproles
Receiving - Sproles
Kick Returns - Sproles
Punt returns - Sproles

40 yard dash in shorts - Gotta go with Bush.

xan · 07-18-2012, 07:56 AM

Sproles didn't have Reggie's numbers? Is this guy misreading the statistics because crack coated pubic hair are covering his eyes?

Why was this even published? Are people that desperate?

Danno · 07-18-2012, 08:21 AM

Rushing average
Reggie - 4.3 per carry
Sproles -5.2 per carry

Receiving Average
Reggie - 7.2 per rec
Sproles -9.1 per rec

Punt Return Average
Reggie - 7.9 per return
Sproles -8.6 per return

Why is this even a debate?

SapperSaint · 07-18-2012, 08:46 AM

Darren is superior, and Reggie knows it.

Darren rolls and Reggie blows.

Seer1 · 07-18-2012, 10:06 AM

It'll be interesting to compare these two in a couple of years. I will say this right now: don't know about the Fin's fans, but we Who Dats sure aren't feelin' cheated by this particular exchange.

xan · 07-18-2012, 10:33 AM

Sorry SloMo, I mistakenly thought you were quoting the article written, not giving your opinion. And, btw, I was agreeing with you that Sproles is superior, it should not be an issue, and someone getting paid to write such drivel had the metaphorical visual distortion.

TheOak · 07-18-2012, 01:06 PM

Sproles = Weapon.

Bush - tool

AlaskaSaints · 07-19-2012, 01:20 PM

I am ready to find a different punt and kick returner, though.

Alaska

Saint_LB · 07-20-2012, 09:58 AM

I would agree that on the surface it would appear that this is not even a debate...Sproles hands down. However, if I speculate...

Reggie was so good coming out of college. It's like someone said, "Sproles did everything we expected Reggie to do!" Is it possible, though, that Reggie has been heavily accounted for ever since he came into the league?

Is it possible that with everybody paying so much attention to Reggie, other players were allowed to flourish, like Colston as an example. To take it a step further, is it really stretching to say that once people started paying attention to the other guys after Reggie left that they were able to do some of the things they always wanted to do with Reggie but couldn't because they were paying so much attention to him being on the field.

I think that another poster said that we might have a clearer view a couple of years later, but since RB's have such a short career expectancy...we just may never know.

07-18-2012, 01:32 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Originally Posted by SloMotion Really guy? 'crack coated pubic hair covering his eyes', I expect that kind of garbage on a Detroit board or an Atlanta board, but not on B&G. You disappoint me ... the stats I'm reading are posted in my reply to 'the Dude' ... feel free to analyze them yourself. Rushing average ... number of carries figures into this, Bush consistenly had more carries per season and thus his APC will be lower ... you conveniently left out # of touchdowns also. Receiving average ... again, you're not looking at number of receptions, if I catch 1 pass for 70yds and you catch 3 passes of 75yds, 20yds and 10yds, who has the better receiving average? Where's the YPG stat on both these guys? Punt Return average ... touche', I guess ... apples & oranges, don't care about punt returns, I'm focusing on the run game. Why is it a debate? ... probably because it's the offseason, bountygate is winding down & Drew has signed ... it's really not, in every post I chose Sproles over Bush, IDK why it's being perceived I'm backing Reggie Bush so much ... the mere fact he dated Kim Kardashian and I was subjected to seeing the camera pan over to her during a few games is enough to nauseate me & turn me against Reggie forever ... I was just pointing out that both backs experienced the best seasons of their career after leaving their respective teams and the change of scenery obviously did them some good ... it's one of those intangibles I like to focus on and whereas Bush may statistically be the better back, he's not the best back for New Orleans ... Sproles is, but that's not to say Bush isn't productive somewhere else, because he is ... in Miami. Advantage: still New Orleans/Sproles. Now get off me. I would rather have someone that actually gets yards all year round than a guy who may have a higher "rushing average" for 8 games. This is about real production not stats. Stats do not matter one bit it just gives nerds something to argue about when they are wrong. Winning and producing is what counts not stats.
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07-18-2012, 07:46 AM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Rushing- I'll take Sproles Receiving - Sproles Kick Returns - Sproles Punt returns - Sproles 40 yard dash in shorts - Gotta go with Bush. SapperSaint, Mardigras9, The Dude and 1 others like this.

07-18-2012, 07:56 AM	#3
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Sproles didn't have Reggie's numbers? Is this guy misreading the statistics because crack coated pubic hair are covering his eyes? Why was this even published? Are people that desperate? The Dude likes this.

07-18-2012, 08:21 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Rushing average Reggie - 4.3 per carry Sproles -5.2 per carry Receiving Average Reggie - 7.2 per rec Sproles -9.1 per rec Punt Return Average Reggie - 7.9 per return Sproles -8.6 per return Why is this even a debate? SaintGup and kcsaints like this.

07-18-2012, 10:06 AM	#6
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	It'll be interesting to compare these two in a couple of years. I will say this right now: don't know about the Fin's fans, but we Who Dats sure aren't feelin' cheated by this particular exchange. WhoDat!656 likes this.

07-18-2012, 08:46 AM	#5
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Darren is superior, and Reggie knows it. Darren rolls and Reggie blows.

07-18-2012, 10:33 AM	#7
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Sorry SloMo, I mistakenly thought you were quoting the article written, not giving your opinion. And, btw, I was agreeing with you that Sproles is superior, it should not be an issue, and someone getting paid to write such drivel had the metaphorical visual distortion.

07-18-2012, 01:06 PM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Sproles = Weapon. Bush - tool Halo, SapperSaint and The Dude like this.

07-19-2012, 01:20 PM	#9
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	I am ready to find a different punt and kick returner, though. Alaska

07-20-2012, 09:58 AM	#10
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	I would agree that on the surface it would appear that this is not even a debate...Sproles hands down. However, if I speculate... Reggie was so good coming out of college. It's like someone said, "Sproles did everything we expected Reggie to do!" Is it possible, though, that Reggie has been heavily accounted for ever since he came into the league? Is it possible that with everybody paying so much attention to Reggie, other players were allowed to flourish, like Colston as an example. To take it a step further, is it really stretching to say that once people started paying attention to the other guys after Reggie left that they were able to do some of the things they always wanted to do with Reggie but couldn't because they were paying so much attention to him being on the field. I think that another poster said that we might have a clearer view a couple of years later, but since RB's have such a short career expectancy...we just may never know.
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