Atlanta game

SaintKiller · 08-10-2012, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

I don't understand. So you're saying now that you've got a worse offensive line and Turner is hot garbage, the falcons will be better?

No! Were better because our O-line is solid and were finally using all our weapons to the best of their abilities, like running screens and vertical routes with our playmakers(Julio, Roddy, HarryD, Quizz Rodgers and Jason Snelling) instead of just lining up and running up the gut with Turner for 2 yards. Another thing that will make us better is our defense, which is better than that conservative crap we had last year also.

|Mitch| · 08-10-2012, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by SaintKiller

Another thing that will make us better is our defense, which is better than that conservative crap we had last year also.

The scheme may be better, but the players aren't... Didn't improve at all on that side of the ball... Tried, but Lofa didn't work out, and your 2nd year starting MLB has a glass chin...

SaintKiller · 08-10-2012, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Gonzales had 875 yards, a 68.9 reception percentage (better than the QB throwing to him) and 7 touchdowns last season. Sure looks like he's a HUGE part of the falcons O.

That was last year in a conservative scheme! where does a non deep threat TE fit into a aggressive scheme? He is to slow to be a deep threat and to slow to run a TE screen.

SaintKiller · 08-10-2012, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

The scheme may be better, but the players aren't... Didn't improve at all on that side of the ball... Tried, but Lofa didn't work out, and your 2nd year starting MLB has a glass chin...

The D is way better go watch the game for yourself, we finally have a pass rush, we finally could get off the field on 3rd down and our DBs are lights out. How many times do we have to say we dont even use a MLB because our base D is the nickel 4-2-5 with the 2LBs being OLBs?

Utah_Saint · 08-10-2012, 11:39 PM

Does it bother you that you had coordinators that got the falcons to 13-3 just two years ago and they fired them to hire coordinators that have left teams worse than they came just about every place they've coached in the NFL?

Oh, and Turner's hot garbage and Gonzales is too slow now. (those are your words)

atltillidie · 08-10-2012, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Last I heard Gonzo was thinking about retirement... If you're already thinking it, you're already there...

It's not like we can't survive without Tony G.

|Mitch| · 08-10-2012, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by SaintKiller

The D is way better go watch the game for yourself, we finally have a pass rush, we finally could get off the field on 3rd down and our DBs are lights out. How many times do we have to say we dont even use a MLB because our base D is the nickel 4-2-5 with the 2LBs being OLBs?

No way, you can stay in the 4-2-5 all game... And one quarter of a preseason game doesn't mean anything... Against the Ravens O-Line at that, which lost their best lineman in Grubbs, who is now with us and looks to be just as good as Nicks *maybe better

Vrillon82 · 08-10-2012, 11:42 PM

They went 13-3 because they ran into creampuff schedule and like every season lately, didnt have any injuries hardly.

Thats been the reason behind their success with a 13 win and 10 win campaign as of the recent years.

I think the Falcons need to watch footage of their 2008 season because they had more of an identity that season than they ever had under Mike Smith and co, at least they stuck to doing what they do best that season. Thats truly been a more successful year for the Falcons than any other year under Matt Ryan/Mike smith.

Utah_Saint · 08-10-2012, 11:45 PM

I'm looking through the records, I don't think Nolan or Koetter have ever been on a 13-3 team in their careers.

atltillidie · 08-10-2012, 11:45 PM

I do agree with Saintkiller, but I don't think Tony Gonzalez is too old and slow.

08-10-2012, 11:30 PM	#91
SaintKiller 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 124	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I don't understand. So you're saying now that you've got a worse offensive line and Turner is hot garbage, the falcons will be better? No! Were better because our O-line is solid and were finally using all our weapons to the best of their abilities, like running screens and vertical routes with our playmakers(Julio, Roddy, HarryD, Quizz Rodgers and Jason Snelling) instead of just lining up and running up the gut with Turner for 2 yards. Another thing that will make us better is our defense, which is better than that conservative crap we had last year also.

08-10-2012, 11:33 PM	#92
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by SaintKiller Another thing that will make us better is our defense, which is better than that conservative crap we had last year also. The scheme may be better, but the players aren't... Didn't improve at all on that side of the ball... Tried, but Lofa didn't work out, and your 2nd year starting MLB has a glass chin...

08-10-2012, 11:33 PM	#93
SaintKiller 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 124	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Gonzales had 875 yards, a 68.9 reception percentage (better than the QB throwing to him) and 7 touchdowns last season. Sure looks like he's a HUGE part of the falcons O. That was last year in a conservative scheme! where does a non deep threat TE fit into a aggressive scheme? He is to slow to be a deep threat and to slow to run a TE screen.

08-10-2012, 11:37 PM	#94
SaintKiller 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 124	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| The scheme may be better, but the players aren't... Didn't improve at all on that side of the ball... Tried, but Lofa didn't work out, and your 2nd year starting MLB has a glass chin... The D is way better go watch the game for yourself, we finally have a pass rush, we finally could get off the field on 3rd down and our DBs are lights out. How many times do we have to say we dont even use a MLB because our base D is the nickel 4-2-5 with the 2LBs being OLBs?

08-10-2012, 11:39 PM	#95
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Atlanta game Does it bother you that you had coordinators that got the falcons to 13-3 just two years ago and they fired them to hire coordinators that have left teams worse than they came just about every place they've coached in the NFL? Oh, and Turner's hot garbage and Gonzales is too slow now. (those are your words)

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08-10-2012, 11:40 PM	#96
atltillidie 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 432	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Last I heard Gonzo was thinking about retirement... If you're already thinking it, you're already there... It's not like we can't survive without Tony G.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by SaintKiller The D is way better go watch the game for yourself, we finally have a pass rush, we finally could get off the field on 3rd down and our DBs are lights out. How many times do we have to say we dont even use a MLB because our base D is the nickel 4-2-5 with the 2LBs being OLBs? No way, you can stay in the 4-2-5 all game... And one quarter of a preseason game doesn't mean anything... Against the Ravens O-Line at that, which lost their best lineman in Grubbs, who is now with us and looks to be just as good as Nicks *maybe better

08-10-2012, 11:42 PM	#98
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Atlanta game They went 13-3 because they ran into creampuff schedule and like every season lately, didnt have any injuries hardly. Thats been the reason behind their success with a 13 win and 10 win campaign as of the recent years. I think the Falcons need to watch footage of their 2008 season because they had more of an identity that season than they ever had under Mike Smith and co, at least they stuck to doing what they do best that season. Thats truly been a more successful year for the Falcons than any other year under Matt Ryan/Mike smith. SaintKiller likes this.
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08-10-2012, 11:45 PM	#99
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Atlanta game I'm looking through the records, I don't think Nolan or Koetter have ever been on a 13-3 team in their careers.

08-10-2012, 11:45 PM	#100
atltillidie 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 432	Re: Atlanta game I do agree with Saintkiller, but I don't think Tony Gonzalez is too old and slow.

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