Atlanta game

SaintKiller · 08-10-2012, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Does it bother you that you had coordinators that got the falcons to 13-3 just two years ago and they fired them to hire coordinators that have left teams worse than they came just about every place they've coached in the NFL?

Oh, and Turner's hot garbage and Gonzales is too slow now.

No because their schemes are a better fit they just didnt have the talent like we do and it showed last night.

Ask yourself when was the last time you guys feared Michael Turner? He isnt the same thats why his reps are getting cut and he is one dimensional.

TonyG has been slow for the last 2/3 seasons so why is that even a question? I didnt say he sucked

atltillidie · 08-10-2012, 11:47 PM

I think Turner is declining, too. He got stuck in the backfield way too much last season.

|Mitch| · 08-10-2012, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by SaintKiller

Ask yourself when was the last time you guys feared Michael Turner?

Question is: When's the last time we feared the Falcons? we have won 10 of the last 12 if I recall correctly...

Utah_Saint · 08-10-2012, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by atltillidie

I think Turner is declining, too he got stuck in the backfield way too much last season.

But wasn't that from the bad offensive line that Saintkiller was talking about?

SaintKiller · 08-10-2012, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

They went 13-3 because they ran into creampuff schedule and like every season lately, didnt have any injuries hardly.

Thats been the reason behind their success with a 13 win and 10 win campaign as of the recent years.

I think the Falcons need to watch footage of their 2008 season because they had more of an identity that season than they ever had under Mike Smith and co, at least they stuck to doing what they do best that season. Thats truly been a more successful year for the Falcons than any other year under Matt Ryan/Mike smith.

Thats when Turners was "The Burner" as in speed, do you think he is fast and explosive now?

The Dude · 08-10-2012, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

No way, you can stay in the 4-2-5 all game... And one quarter of a preseason game doesn't mean anything... Against the Ravens O-Line at that, which lost their best lineman in Grubbs, who is now with us and looks to be just as good as Nicks *maybe better

He thinks one quarter of preseason does mean something. The Falcons also showed their hand in opening the playbook while most teams go vanilla their first couple of pre season games. They keep it up and they are going to give opposing teams a ton of tape before the season even starts.

Tobias-Reiper · 08-10-2012, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by SaintKiller

That was last year in a conservative scheme! where does a non deep threat TE fit into a aggressive scheme? He is to slow to be a deep threat and to slow to run a TE screen.

... gee, I don't know.. 3rd downs? Last year Gonzalez had 53 catches resulting in a 1st down, according to Yahoo Sports. You don't want the Falcons to utilize that, fine.

I guess you really think an "aggressive" scheme is just bombs away, and you are envisioning 50-70 yd bombs to J. Jones every offensive possession. Chances are, that's not going to happen.

SaintKiller · 08-10-2012, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

But wasn't that from the bad offensive line that Saintkiller was talking about?

Both.

Utah_Saint · 08-10-2012, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by SaintKiller

TonyG has been slow for th2 last 2/3 seasons so why is that even a question? I didnt say he sucked

The question wasn't whether he was slow. You said he wasn't part of the falcons offense anymore. I just pointed out that he was a big part of the falcons offense just last season.

atltillidie · 08-10-2012, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

But wasn't that from the bad offensive line that Saintkiller was talking about?

Probably, but the best running backs are able to make big gains out of absolutely nothing all the time.

08-10-2012, 11:46 PM	#101
SaintKiller 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 124	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Does it bother you that you had coordinators that got the falcons to 13-3 just two years ago and they fired them to hire coordinators that have left teams worse than they came just about every place they've coached in the NFL? Oh, and Turner's hot garbage and Gonzales is too slow now. No because their schemes are a better fit they just didnt have the talent like we do and it showed last night. Ask yourself when was the last time you guys feared Michael Turner? He isnt the same thats why his reps are getting cut and he is one dimensional. TonyG has been slow for the last 2/3 seasons so why is that even a question? I didnt say he sucked

08-10-2012, 11:47 PM	#102
atltillidie 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 432	Re: Atlanta game I think Turner is declining, too. He got stuck in the backfield way too much last season.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by SaintKiller Ask yourself when was the last time you guys feared Michael Turner? Question is: When's the last time we feared the Falcons? we have won 10 of the last 12 if I recall correctly... ScottF likes this.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by atltillidie I think Turner is declining, too he got stuck in the backfield way too much last season. But wasn't that from the bad offensive line that Saintkiller was talking about?

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SaintKiller 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 124	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Vrillon82 They went 13-3 because they ran into creampuff schedule and like every season lately, didnt have any injuries hardly. Thats been the reason behind their success with a 13 win and 10 win campaign as of the recent years. I think the Falcons need to watch footage of their 2008 season because they had more of an identity that season than they ever had under Mike Smith and co, at least they stuck to doing what they do best that season. Thats truly been a more successful year for the Falcons than any other year under Matt Ryan/Mike smith. Thats when Turners was "The Burner" as in speed, do you think he is fast and explosive now?

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| No way, you can stay in the 4-2-5 all game... And one quarter of a preseason game doesn't mean anything... Against the Ravens O-Line at that, which lost their best lineman in Grubbs, who is now with us and looks to be just as good as Nicks *maybe better He thinks one quarter of preseason does mean something. The Falcons also showed their hand in opening the playbook while most teams go vanilla their first couple of pre season games. They keep it up and they are going to give opposing teams a ton of tape before the season even starts.
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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by SaintKiller That was last year in a conservative scheme! where does a non deep threat TE fit into a aggressive scheme? He is to slow to be a deep threat and to slow to run a TE screen. ... gee, I don't know.. 3rd downs? Last year Gonzalez had 53 catches resulting in a 1st down, according to Yahoo Sports. You don't want the Falcons to utilize that, fine. I guess you really think an "aggressive" scheme is just bombs away, and you are envisioning 50-70 yd bombs to J. Jones every offensive possession. Chances are, that's not going to happen.

08-10-2012, 11:49 PM	#108
SaintKiller 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 124	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Utah_Saint But wasn't that from the bad offensive line that Saintkiller was talking about? Both.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by SaintKiller TonyG has been slow for th2 last 2/3 seasons so why is that even a question? I didnt say he sucked The question wasn't whether he was slow. You said he wasn't part of the falcons offense anymore. I just pointed out that he was a big part of the falcons offense just last season.

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atltillidie 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 432	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Utah_Saint But wasn't that from the bad offensive line that Saintkiller was talking about? Probably, but the best running backs are able to make big gains out of absolutely nothing all the time. SaintKiller likes this.

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