Atlanta game

SaintKiller · 08-10-2012, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

The question wasn't whether he was slow. You said he wasn't part of the falcons offense anymore. I just pointed out that he was a big part of the falcons offense just last season.

Im talking about now, not last year! they didnt even look his way last night.

|Mitch| · 08-10-2012, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

I guess you really think an "aggressive" scheme is just bombs away, and you are envisioning 50-70 yd bombs to J. Jones every offensive possession. Facts are, that's not going to happen.

Fixed...

Utah_Saint · 08-10-2012, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by atltillidie

Probably, but the best running backs are able to make big gains out of absolutely nothing all the time.

Wasn't Turner the third leading rusher in the NFL last year? And didn't you guys say before the o-line was bad last year? Wouldn't that be making yards out of nothing?

NOLA54 · 08-10-2012, 11:56 PM

Preseason is preseason. No one is showing their hand whether it be offense or defense.

atltillidie · 08-10-2012, 11:57 PM

He was third in rushing yards. I said he either got stuck barely across the line of scrimmage or in the backfield way too much last year.

Utah_Saint · 08-11-2012, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by atltillidie

He was third in rushing yards. I said he either got stuck barely across the line of scrimmage or in the backfield way too much last year.

Well if the third leading rusher isn't good enough for the new falcons offense, how good does he have to be?

atltillidie · 08-11-2012, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Well if the third leading rusher isn't good enough for the new falcons offense, how good does he have to be?

I'm not saying he totally sucks, but hey, he's 30 now, and we've got to move on from him soon. Notice that JacQuizz Rodgers had more carries than Turner had last night. JacQuizz was taken out for the night the same time that the rest of the starters were benched. If the training camp reports I'd been reading over the season are correct, Rodgers is going to start getting as much carries as he does.

The Dude · 08-11-2012, 12:11 AM

So what do you think your record will be? Do you see the Falcons sweeping the Saints this year?

atltillidie · 08-11-2012, 12:14 AM

I see a split betwaeen the Falcons and Saints. I expect us to win 11-12 games this year.

Vrillon82 · 08-11-2012, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

I'm looking through the records, I don't think Nolan or Koetter have ever been on a 13-3 team in their careers.

I am not even sure if Mike Nolan is a good D-Coordinator, I never seen his body of work like more well known D-Coordinators like a Rex Ryan, Gregg Williams, Steve Spags, or Wade Philips.

I consider Nolan a lesser coach of the defense than any of those guys. I remember when Nolan coached San Fran and they never had a defense or an offense for that matter. He went to Denver, not even sure what denvers defense was like last year, it didnt stand out to me none.

Now you got Nolan going to Atlanta, question I am asking is, what is on that roster defense wise that Nolan is really going to use and make a good defense out of? Answer is, I see pretty much nothing except maybe 2 players that are at least decent, I think one is a LB and the other a CB. I think the Falcons last D-Coordinator probably got about as much out of that unit as one could get, I cant imagine Mike Nolan getting anymore out of it, he may end up getting less since Lofton is gone.

I dunno about Koetter, is Koetter the OC they hired from JAX?

All I know is is that they trying to change up to a passing team now more than a running team, they need to know if Matt Ryan can succeed in such a system, when Ryan has been forced to air it out, it has not been a pretty sight.

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SaintKiller 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 124	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Utah_Saint The question wasn't whether he was slow. You said he wasn't part of the falcons offense anymore. I just pointed out that he was a big part of the falcons offense just last season. Im talking about now, not last year! they didnt even look his way last night.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper I guess you really think an "aggressive" scheme is just bombs away, and you are envisioning 50-70 yd bombs to J. Jones every offensive possession. Facts are, that's not going to happen. Fixed...

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by atltillidie Probably, but the best running backs are able to make big gains out of absolutely nothing all the time. Wasn't Turner the third leading rusher in the NFL last year? And didn't you guys say before the o-line was bad last year? Wouldn't that be making yards out of nothing?

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by atltillidie He was third in rushing yards. I said he either got stuck barely across the line of scrimmage or in the backfield way too much last year. Well if the third leading rusher isn't good enough for the new falcons offense, how good does he have to be? \|Mitch\| likes this.

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atltillidie 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 432	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Well if the third leading rusher isn't good enough for the new falcons offense, how good does he have to be? I'm not saying he totally sucks, but hey, he's 30 now, and we've got to move on from him soon. Notice that JacQuizz Rodgers had more carries than Turner had last night. JacQuizz was taken out for the night the same time that the rest of the starters were benched. If the training camp reports I'd been reading over the season are correct, Rodgers is going to start getting as much carries as he does. SaintKiller likes this.

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atltillidie 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 432	Re: Atlanta game I see a split betwaeen the Falcons and Saints. I expect us to win 11-12 games this year.

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Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I'm looking through the records, I don't think Nolan or Koetter have ever been on a 13-3 team in their careers. I am not even sure if Mike Nolan is a good D-Coordinator, I never seen his body of work like more well known D-Coordinators like a Rex Ryan, Gregg Williams, Steve Spags, or Wade Philips. I consider Nolan a lesser coach of the defense than any of those guys. I remember when Nolan coached San Fran and they never had a defense or an offense for that matter. He went to Denver, not even sure what denvers defense was like last year, it didnt stand out to me none. Now you got Nolan going to Atlanta, question I am asking is, what is on that roster defense wise that Nolan is really going to use and make a good defense out of? Answer is, I see pretty much nothing except maybe 2 players that are at least decent, I think one is a LB and the other a CB. I think the Falcons last D-Coordinator probably got about as much out of that unit as one could get, I cant imagine Mike Nolan getting anymore out of it, he may end up getting less since Lofton is gone. I dunno about Koetter, is Koetter the OC they hired from JAX? All I know is is that they trying to change up to a passing team now more than a running team, they need to know if Matt Ryan can succeed in such a system, when Ryan has been forced to air it out, it has not been a pretty sight.
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