Atlanta game

Utah_Saint · 08-10-2012, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by SaintKiller

TonyG has been slow for th2 last 2/3 seasons so why is that even a question? I didnt say he sucked

The question wasn't whether he was slow. You said he wasn't part of the falcons offense anymore. I just pointed out that he was a big part of the falcons offense just last season.

SaintKiller · 08-10-2012, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

The question wasn't whether he was slow. You said he wasn't part of the falcons offense anymore. I just pointed out that he was a big part of the falcons offense just last season.

Im talking about now, not last year! they didnt even look his way last night.

Vrillon82 · 08-10-2012, 10:42 PM

They went 13-3 because they ran into creampuff schedule and like every season lately, didnt have any injuries hardly.

Thats been the reason behind their success with a 13 win and 10 win campaign as of the recent years.

I think the Falcons need to watch footage of their 2008 season because they had more of an identity that season than they ever had under Mike Smith and co, at least they stuck to doing what they do best that season. Thats truly been a more successful year for the Falcons than any other year under Matt Ryan/Mike smith.

SaintKiller · 08-10-2012, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

They went 13-3 because they ran into creampuff schedule and like every season lately, didnt have any injuries hardly.

Thats been the reason behind their success with a 13 win and 10 win campaign as of the recent years.

I think the Falcons need to watch footage of their 2008 season because they had more of an identity that season than they ever had under Mike Smith and co, at least they stuck to doing what they do best that season. Thats truly been a more successful year for the Falcons than any other year under Matt Ryan/Mike smith.

Thats when Turners was "The Burner" as in speed, do you think he is fast and explosive now?

Utah_Saint · 08-10-2012, 10:45 PM

I'm looking through the records, I don't think Nolan or Koetter have ever been on a 13-3 team in their careers.

Vrillon82 · 08-10-2012, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

I'm looking through the records, I don't think Nolan or Koetter have ever been on a 13-3 team in their careers.

I am not even sure if Mike Nolan is a good D-Coordinator, I never seen his body of work like more well known D-Coordinators like a Rex Ryan, Gregg Williams, Steve Spags, or Wade Philips.

I consider Nolan a lesser coach of the defense than any of those guys. I remember when Nolan coached San Fran and they never had a defense or an offense for that matter. He went to Denver, not even sure what denvers defense was like last year, it didnt stand out to me none.

Now you got Nolan going to Atlanta, question I am asking is, what is on that roster defense wise that Nolan is really going to use and make a good defense out of? Answer is, I see pretty much nothing except maybe 2 players that are at least decent, I think one is a LB and the other a CB. I think the Falcons last D-Coordinator probably got about as much out of that unit as one could get, I cant imagine Mike Nolan getting anymore out of it, he may end up getting less since Lofton is gone.

I dunno about Koetter, is Koetter the OC they hired from JAX?

All I know is is that they trying to change up to a passing team now more than a running team, they need to know if Matt Ryan can succeed in such a system, when Ryan has been forced to air it out, it has not been a pretty sight.

|Mitch| · 08-10-2012, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

He went to Denver, not even sure what denvers defense was like last year, it didnt stand out to me none.

He was with Miami last year, Denver the year before

atltillidie · 08-10-2012, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

I am not even sure if Mike Nolan is a good D-Coordinator, I never seen his body of work like more well known D-Coordinators like a Rex Ryan, Gregg Williams, Steve Spags, or Wade Philips.

I consider Nolan a lesser coach of the defense than any of those guys. I remember when Nolan coached San Fran and they never had a defense or an offense for that matter. He went to Denver, not even sure what denvers defense was like last year, it didnt stand out to me none.

Now you got Nolan going to Atlanta, question I am asking is, what is on that roster defense wise that Nolan is really going to use and make a good defense out of? Answer is, I see pretty much nothing except maybe 2 players that are at least decent, I think one is a LB and the other a CB. I think the Falcons last D-Coordinator probably got about as much out of that unit as one could get, I cant imagine Mike Nolan getting anymore out of it, he may end up getting less since Lofton is gone.

I dunno about Koetter, is Koetter the OC they hired from JAX?

All I know is is that they trying to change up to a passing team now more than a running team, they need to know if Matt Ryan can succeed in such a system, when Ryan has been forced to air it out, it has not been a pretty sight.

I wish you guys could have watched that game last night. The starters were on fire. Matt Ryan was just too agressive on one throw and forced the ball to Roddy White, resulting in a pick, but other than that he played a fantastic game. Matt Ryan's deep balls were on point, and he was a lot more accurate.

|Mitch| · 08-10-2012, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by atltillidie

I wish you guys could have watched that game last night.

I caught the replay on NFL Network late last night, and I was unimpressed

atltillidie · 08-10-2012, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I caught the replay on NFL Network late last night, and I was unimpressed

That's because you didn't watch the game.

08-10-2012, 10:49 PM	#1
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by SaintKiller TonyG has been slow for th2 last 2/3 seasons so why is that even a question? I didnt say he sucked The question wasn't whether he was slow. You said he wasn't part of the falcons offense anymore. I just pointed out that he was a big part of the falcons offense just last season.

08-10-2012, 10:50 PM	#2
SaintKiller 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 124	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Utah_Saint The question wasn't whether he was slow. You said he wasn't part of the falcons offense anymore. I just pointed out that he was a big part of the falcons offense just last season. Im talking about now, not last year! they didnt even look his way last night.

08-10-2012, 10:42 PM	#3
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Atlanta game They went 13-3 because they ran into creampuff schedule and like every season lately, didnt have any injuries hardly. Thats been the reason behind their success with a 13 win and 10 win campaign as of the recent years. I think the Falcons need to watch footage of their 2008 season because they had more of an identity that season than they ever had under Mike Smith and co, at least they stuck to doing what they do best that season. Thats truly been a more successful year for the Falcons than any other year under Matt Ryan/Mike smith. SaintKiller likes this.
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08-10-2012, 10:48 PM	#4
SaintKiller 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 124	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Vrillon82 They went 13-3 because they ran into creampuff schedule and like every season lately, didnt have any injuries hardly. Thats been the reason behind their success with a 13 win and 10 win campaign as of the recent years. I think the Falcons need to watch footage of their 2008 season because they had more of an identity that season than they ever had under Mike Smith and co, at least they stuck to doing what they do best that season. Thats truly been a more successful year for the Falcons than any other year under Matt Ryan/Mike smith. Thats when Turners was "The Burner" as in speed, do you think he is fast and explosive now?

08-10-2012, 10:45 PM	#5
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Atlanta game I'm looking through the records, I don't think Nolan or Koetter have ever been on a 13-3 team in their careers.

08-10-2012, 11:24 PM	#6
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I'm looking through the records, I don't think Nolan or Koetter have ever been on a 13-3 team in their careers. I am not even sure if Mike Nolan is a good D-Coordinator, I never seen his body of work like more well known D-Coordinators like a Rex Ryan, Gregg Williams, Steve Spags, or Wade Philips. I consider Nolan a lesser coach of the defense than any of those guys. I remember when Nolan coached San Fran and they never had a defense or an offense for that matter. He went to Denver, not even sure what denvers defense was like last year, it didnt stand out to me none. Now you got Nolan going to Atlanta, question I am asking is, what is on that roster defense wise that Nolan is really going to use and make a good defense out of? Answer is, I see pretty much nothing except maybe 2 players that are at least decent, I think one is a LB and the other a CB. I think the Falcons last D-Coordinator probably got about as much out of that unit as one could get, I cant imagine Mike Nolan getting anymore out of it, he may end up getting less since Lofton is gone. I dunno about Koetter, is Koetter the OC they hired from JAX? All I know is is that they trying to change up to a passing team now more than a running team, they need to know if Matt Ryan can succeed in such a system, when Ryan has been forced to air it out, it has not been a pretty sight.
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08-10-2012, 11:33 PM	#7
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Vrillon82 He went to Denver, not even sure what denvers defense was like last year, it didnt stand out to me none. He was with Miami last year, Denver the year before

08-10-2012, 11:34 PM	#8
atltillidie 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 432	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by Vrillon82 I am not even sure if Mike Nolan is a good D-Coordinator, I never seen his body of work like more well known D-Coordinators like a Rex Ryan, Gregg Williams, Steve Spags, or Wade Philips. I consider Nolan a lesser coach of the defense than any of those guys. I remember when Nolan coached San Fran and they never had a defense or an offense for that matter. He went to Denver, not even sure what denvers defense was like last year, it didnt stand out to me none. Now you got Nolan going to Atlanta, question I am asking is, what is on that roster defense wise that Nolan is really going to use and make a good defense out of? Answer is, I see pretty much nothing except maybe 2 players that are at least decent, I think one is a LB and the other a CB. I think the Falcons last D-Coordinator probably got about as much out of that unit as one could get, I cant imagine Mike Nolan getting anymore out of it, he may end up getting less since Lofton is gone. I dunno about Koetter, is Koetter the OC they hired from JAX? All I know is is that they trying to change up to a passing team now more than a running team, they need to know if Matt Ryan can succeed in such a system, when Ryan has been forced to air it out, it has not been a pretty sight. I wish you guys could have watched that game last night. The starters were on fire. Matt Ryan was just too agressive on one throw and forced the ball to Roddy White, resulting in a pick, but other than that he played a fantastic game. Matt Ryan's deep balls were on point, and he was a lot more accurate.

08-10-2012, 11:35 PM	#9
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by atltillidie I wish you guys could have watched that game last night. I caught the replay on NFL Network late last night, and I was unimpressed

08-10-2012, 11:53 PM	#10
atltillidie 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 432	Re: Atlanta game Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I caught the replay on NFL Network late last night, and I was unimpressed That's because you didn't watch the game.

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