Judge calls BS on Goodell

08-16-2012, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Hell no! Why settle when you did not do what you are being disciplined for? WHEN this goes on it will continue to get more ugly for Goodell.

You act as though you believe that there were truly bounties placed on opposing players as Goodell claimed. Is that what you believe? If not then there is no way in hell Vilma should settle. If you do believe that then ... I don't know what to think.

Here is the catch and question. How badly does Vilma want to play?
If he settles, the suspension starts and 8 games later if healthy he can play.
If he fights, and the fight drags out a few months, which it will through appeals etc... he could win but never play this season.

QBREES9 · 08-16-2012, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Here is the catch and question. How badly does Vilma want to play?
If he settles, the suspension starts and 8 games later if healthy he can play.
If he fights, and the fight drags out a few months, which it will through appeals etc... he could win but never play this season.

My point ! Thank you.

Stealthman · 08-16-2012, 07:49 AM

If Vilma wins, he'll gain a huge settlement AND (eventually) get to play.

Best of both worlds!

SaintsBro · 08-16-2012, 07:58 AM

Lots more at stake for Vilma than just wanting to play this season. Life after football. It's narrow-minded to think he is just fighting for 8 or 10 game checks here.

Seer1 · 08-16-2012, 09:06 AM

Could we start a class action suit against the kommisar for damages? I can't be the only person out here that has a headache from all of this. The least he could do is spring for some aspirin for us.

TheOak · 08-16-2012, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by Stealthman

If Vilma wins, he'll gain a huge settlement AND (eventually) get to play.

Best of both worlds!

The only thing Vilma does not have on his personal side is time.

At 31 with a bad knee, and a career on the decline....

His knee is a HUGE problem. He injured his knee on September 18th 2011 then had his knee scoped around Nov 7th 2011...... Nine months later he is not ready to play.

spkb25 · 08-16-2012, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

Speaking of ESPN, just found this interesting nugget on twitter:

UNC scandal referencing this

hahaha, that's brilliant. So true!

SapperSaint · 08-16-2012, 09:18 AM

When someone of importance steps to a microphone and says, "We have 50,000 pages of evidence, proving that "someone" placed injury bounties on opposing team players"; I don't care who you are, you believe that team did what they are being accused of. Like HALO said, that's a lot of paper!

I want that 50,000 pages to be shown! Prove it to me and to the rest of the world! If they have it; fine. If they don't; whoa be unto Goodell and the SOB's that have tried their best to tarnish our team. And not just because it's our team, but the NFL could have done this to any other team in the leauge. Other fans and teams of the NFL should be demanding this also.

If the NFL gets away with this, they will do it to another team(s) in the future.

BIGEASY504 · 08-16-2012, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

They need to settle this. It turns out and offer was made to Vilma. 8 games but he turn it down. If this goes on it will turn ugly. Even more so.

I understand the need for a middle ground but NO!!! Vilma needs to take the commish and the league to task with this. If you did not do something and being accused you fight for that; all or nothing is what Vilma is basically requesting either you produce the evidence you have or let us play cause you have nothing - Vilma is doing the right thing for him in this case

TheOak · 08-16-2012, 09:31 AM

Scratch that earlier comment about one knee procedure.... Apparently he had had three procedures.

Affidavit reveals that Jonathan Vilma has had three procedures performed on left knee - New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com

08-16-2012, 07:34 AM	#21
Threaded by TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Hell no! Why settle when you did not do what you are being disciplined for? WHEN this goes on it will continue to get more ugly for Goodell. You act as though you believe that there were truly bounties placed on opposing players as Goodell claimed. Is that what you believe? If not then there is no way in hell Vilma should settle. If you do believe that then ... I don't know what to think. Here is the catch and question. How badly does Vilma want to play? If he settles, the suspension starts and 8 games later if healthy he can play. If he fights, and the fight drags out a few months, which it will through appeals etc... he could win but never play this season.
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08-16-2012, 07:37 AM	#22
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Judge calls BS on Goodell Originally Posted by x626xBlack Here is the catch and question. How badly does Vilma want to play? If he settles, the suspension starts and 8 games later if healthy he can play. If he fights, and the fight drags out a few months, which it will through appeals etc... he could win but never play this season. My point ! Thank you.

08-16-2012, 07:49 AM	#23
Stealthman B&G StaffWriter Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 382	Re: Judge calls BS on Goodell If Vilma wins, he'll gain a huge settlement AND (eventually) get to play. Best of both worlds! D_it_up and SmashMouth like this.

08-16-2012, 07:58 AM	#24
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Judge calls BS on Goodell Lots more at stake for Vilma than just wanting to play this season. Life after football. It's narrow-minded to think he is just fighting for 8 or 10 game checks here. D_it_up, SmashMouth and kcsaints like this.

08-16-2012, 09:06 AM	#25
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Judge calls BS on Goodell Could we start a class action suit against the kommisar for damages? I can't be the only person out here that has a headache from all of this. The least he could do is spring for some aspirin for us. Rugby Saint II and Utah_Saint like this.

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08-16-2012, 09:09 AM	#26
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Judge calls BS on Goodell Originally Posted by Stealthman If Vilma wins, he'll gain a huge settlement AND (eventually) get to play. Best of both worlds! The only thing Vilma does not have on his personal side is time. At 31 with a bad knee, and a career on the decline.... His knee is a HUGE problem. He injured his knee on September 18th 2011 then had his knee scoped around Nov 7th 2011...... Nine months later he is not ready to play.

08-16-2012, 09:10 AM	#27
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Judge calls BS on Goodell Originally Posted by Halo Speaking of ESPN, just found this interesting nugget on twitter: UNC scandal referencing this hahaha, that's brilliant. So true!

08-16-2012, 09:18 AM	#28
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Judge calls BS on Goodell When someone of importance steps to a microphone and says, "We have 50,000 pages of evidence, proving that "someone" placed injury bounties on opposing team players"; I don't care who you are, you believe that team did what they are being accused of. Like HALO said, that's a lot of paper! I want that 50,000 pages to be shown! Prove it to me and to the rest of the world! If they have it; fine. If they don't; whoa be unto Goodell and the SOB's that have tried their best to tarnish our team. And not just because it's our team, but the NFL could have done this to any other team in the leauge. Other fans and teams of the NFL should be demanding this also. If the NFL gets away with this, they will do it to another team(s) in the future. 42alpha saint likes this.
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08-16-2012, 09:22 AM	#29
BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	Re: Judge calls BS on Goodell Originally Posted by QBREES9 They need to settle this. It turns out and offer was made to Vilma. 8 games but he turn it down. If this goes on it will turn ugly. Even more so. I understand the need for a middle ground but NO!!! Vilma needs to take the commish and the league to task with this. If you did not do something and being accused you fight for that; all or nothing is what Vilma is basically requesting either you produce the evidence you have or let us play cause you have nothing - Vilma is doing the right thing for him in this case kcsaints likes this.
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08-16-2012, 09:31 AM	#30
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Judge calls BS on Goodell Scratch that earlier comment about one knee procedure.... Apparently he had had three procedures. Affidavit reveals that Jonathan Vilma has had three procedures performed on left knee - New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com

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