Judge calls BS on Goodell

TheOak · 08-16-2012, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by NuNu318

Which is why the hearing was complete BS and bias. Because the "evidence" provided to the NFLPA was complete garbage. How can the NFLPA prepare and argument when its all circumstantial and pretty much just a typed up memo of what the NFL SAYS it has and a sorry excuse for a power point presentation. All of which would be thrown out in an actual courtroom. How can they defend against something that isn't there. This isn't Ghostbusters...

The NFL is trying desperately to hide behind that CBA but it violated the CBA themselves and expects a judge to just accept that. They have put themselves in a deep whole because they thought Vilma and the players would just accept the tarnishing of their reputations without fighting back. The NFL is losing all credibility because its doing what they accuse the Saints organization of doing....being arrogant. They never expected Vilma to take it this far because they have this notion in their head that these players are complete idiots and will take anything because they don't know any better.....now their seeing that a lot of these players are a lot smarter than what they give them credit for.

That is standard procedure for an appeals hearing... Even when battleing for unemployment from a company that severs someone.

Trust me..... been there. They only have to give what they plan to use to justify their case in that hearing. They can save the rest for the next appeal, firewood, etc...

Why would they have to submit what they do not plan to use? If the roles were reversed the NFLPA would only give up what they planned to use for that particular hearing.... Saving the rest for a future fight.

It is what it is..... And I should remind everyone.. "IT" is what the NFLPA agreed upon. Thanks DeMaurice Smith.

The rest could incriminate other players and they do not have to release that. The rest could absolve Vilma and they do not have to release that... Its up to the NFLPA to discover what they need.

Speaking of discovery..... I still have a major issue with the NFLPA not subpoenaing Greg Williams, Roger Goodell, and all parties involved with the "supposed" infractions or the investigation.... So that they could get their own answers... Not getting their own evidence means they are constantly on the Defense instead of the offense... I have yet to see where the NFLPA has filed a motion to get the NFL to turn all 50k pages over.. They asked, but not legally.

NFL wins the Time of Possession battle.

08-16-2012, 11:00 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Judge calls BS on Goodell Originally Posted by NuNu318 Which is why the hearing was complete BS and bias. Because the "evidence" provided to the NFLPA was complete garbage. How can the NFLPA prepare and argument when its all circumstantial and pretty much just a typed up memo of what the NFL SAYS it has and a sorry excuse for a power point presentation. All of which would be thrown out in an actual courtroom. How can they defend against something that isn't there. This isn't Ghostbusters... The NFL is trying desperately to hide behind that CBA but it violated the CBA themselves and expects a judge to just accept that. They have put themselves in a deep whole because they thought Vilma and the players would just accept the tarnishing of their reputations without fighting back. The NFL is losing all credibility because its doing what they accuse the Saints organization of doing....being arrogant. They never expected Vilma to take it this far because they have this notion in their head that these players are complete idiots and will take anything because they don't know any better.....now their seeing that a lot of these players are a lot smarter than what they give them credit for. That is standard procedure for an appeals hearing... Even when battleing for unemployment from a company that severs someone. Trust me..... been there. They only have to give what they plan to use to justify their case in that hearing. They can save the rest for the next appeal, firewood, etc... Why would they have to submit what they do not plan to use? If the roles were reversed the NFLPA would only give up what they planned to use for that particular hearing.... Saving the rest for a future fight. It is what it is..... And I should remind everyone.. "IT" is what the NFLPA agreed upon. Thanks DeMaurice Smith. The rest could incriminate other players and they do not have to release that. The rest could absolve Vilma and they do not have to release that... Its up to the NFLPA to discover what they need. Speaking of discovery..... I still have a major issue with the NFLPA not subpoenaing Greg Williams, Roger Goodell, and all parties involved with the "supposed" infractions or the investigation.... So that they could get their own answers... Not getting their own evidence means they are constantly on the Defense instead of the offense... I have yet to see where the NFLPA has filed a motion to get the NFL to turn all 50k pages over.. They asked, but not legally. NFL wins the Time of Possession battle.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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