No you miss the point

I'd agree with you............ if we had already played those first 8 games. But the fact that the team has done unbelievable things ALREADY and WE'RE STILL talking crap like going 10-6 even though we may just be one of the most complete teams in the NFL(next to steelers, texans, and 9ers etc) is the problem here.

The fact that this guy thinks that we'd actually struggle in the division or go 4-4 is what irks me.

I don't understand where people get this idea that we SHOULD fail. I hope people realize that every time they say that Sean Payton not being there will drastically affect the Saints. You're not complementing Payton. You're insulting him. His system is still there. His coaches are identical to his style. They do what he wants from them. They call the plays he'd call. Great coaches do that.

A decade and a half later I still bits and pieces of Bill Parcells system in play with the New York Giants. Even with Coughlin.

Jpp reminds me of LT a little bit.

Who ever said we were going 4-4 or 10-6 AT ALL? I think we could go 13-3 or 14-2 based off the look of the schedule. It's as if this guy has no hope in us.


"The fact that the defense can go through such a drastic change; new d-coordinator, new defensive captain, completely different defensive scheme but the Saints are still in contention because of the amazing offense is pretty impressive."

So if it's so impressive, why are we talking about them only going 10-6 or 4-4 or JUST BARELY winning the division? Have you seen the other elite teams defenses? The packers and patriots defenses haven't changed one bit from last year. Ours has.

What's also annoying is pointing out how great Brees is but then saying he could only carry us to 10-6. Really? Cause Manning has carried the Colts and Brady has carried the Pats to super bowls before and they had no defense. He carried us to 13-3 and we had a much worse defense last year so why should it shrink to 10-6. It's not "genius". It's Saints football.

I'm going out on a limb here but I don't see us being friends.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. We all have varying degrees of comfort for the team this year.
Arguing about it and calling people out isn't the way to get your point across.
You are a new member here and I have a feeling you were banned from another forum the way you just showed up here and started name calling.

I'm going out on a limb here but I don't see us being friends.

WOW! Tell ME WHERE exactly I called out ANYBODY or their opinion in this thread or NAMEDCALLED ANYBODY HERE? Everybody here keeps saying I was namecalling but they have yet to tell me where and when I did such a thing.

You do realize this is a forum right? We're kind of supposed to argue so stop it.


And no I wasn't BANNED from another forum. Sorry to disappoint your attempt at trying to be some showoff superman(and you call me the callout).

And before you take offense to this comment, just remember, YOU CALLED ME OUT.

Brother try and relax. This is a casual forum, filled with South Louisiana folk, it seems we are a fairly relaxed personality in contrast to where you are from. You are correct and this is a forum, but no one comes to this sanctuary to argue. Discuss and debate yes, argue ... not so much.

We are all here for the same reason... To love the Saints, and share in our ideas and opinions. If two members do not agree... it is just that, an impasse on ideas, not an attack on anyone's intelligence.

This is not directed at you but to anyone or everyone that is involved and reads this post. Perhaps we should all take a moment before we make statements like "that makes no sense", "you are wrong"... etc... A proactive approach would be, "interesting observation, care to elaborate so I understand where you are coming from?"

P.S. Showoff Superman = Name calling... Being "called out" does not mean you have to retaliate... This is the internet and no one wins an internet argument. A less defensive posture might generate more discussion about the topic and less comparison of internet-penis.

And while we do name call here, that specific approach is reserved for Falcons fans, because they are not bags, or nozzles, they are the entire douche kit.

Man, that makes no sense and you are wrong!

Brother try and relax. This is a casual forum, filled with South Louisiana folk, it seems we are a fairly relaxed personality in contrast to where you are from. You are correct and this is a forum, but no one comes to this sanctuary to argue. Discuss and debate yes, argue ... not so much.

We are all here for the same reason... To love the Saints, and share in our ideas and opinions. If two members do not agree... it is just that, an impasse on ideas, not an attack on anyone's intelligence.

This is not directed at you but to anyone or everyone that is involved and reads this post. Perhaps we should all take a moment before we make statements like "that makes no sense", "you are wrong"... etc... A proactive approach would be, "interesting observation, care to elaborate so I understand where you are coming from?"

P.S. Showoff Superman = Name calling... Being "called out" does not mean you have to retaliate... This is the internet and no one wins an internet argument. A less defensive posture might generate more discussion about the topic and less comparison of internet-penis.

And while we do name call here, that specific approach is reserved for Falcons fans, because they are not bags, or nozzles, they are the entire douche kit.