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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SmashMouth no evidence to present to prove anything.... Goodell can re-frame the reason for the punishment. And there is 40,000 slide powerpoint somewhere...

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Old 09-07-2012, 04:46 PM   #131
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth View Post
no evidence to present to prove anything....

Goodell can re-frame the reason for the punishment.

And there is 40,000 slide powerpoint somewhere
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:46 PM   #132
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Oh snap! Can we afford Vilma? His salary didn't count against the cap this year, now it does.

Yeah, it's not a problem, because Vilma and the Saints re-negotiated his contract earlier in the year and made it consist mostly of bonuses which are guaranteed, so those already counted toward the cap even with the suspension. Vilma's base salary was "only" little less than $2M if I remember correctly, and that is the only thing that will be added to the salary cap.

It's the same with Smith, his re-negotiated contract had only a $800K base salary, so the Saints only have to add $200K to their cap because of him not being suspended for the 4 games.

Now, other things that have affected the reported $8.2M the Saints still had left on the cap are the couple of DB moves they made. Rafael Bush has a $465K cap hit whereas Amaya, who Bush replaced, had a $540K cap hit. And I don't know what Marquis Johnson's cap hit was, but I suspect it was more than the $490K cap hit that Jerome Murphy has. Also, there's the cap hit of Elbert Mack, who was cut to make room for Murphy, before Johnson's injury settlement was announced.

So, all in all, the Saints' cap is looking better than I would've expected with all the moves the FO made this offseason - you gotta love the cap massaging Loomis has done once again.

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Old 09-07-2012, 04:49 PM   #133
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Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint View Post
Goodell made Vilma's suspension begin immediately after the ruling.

Yeah, I was just making fun of the report, which made it sound like Vilma had chosen not to take part in the offseason activities with the Saints out of his own volition.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:56 PM   #134
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post
Goodell can re-frame the reason for the punishment.

And there is 40,000 slide powerpoint somewhere
.. yeah, more like 49,820

As I understand it, he can't re-frame anything. I understood from the ruling that he cannot bunch up pay for performance and pay to injure in one, so he is now going to have to define the very instances of pay to injure, which would mean not only that the 49,820 slide deck would have to be made public, but his sources as well. He will have to be transparent the next time around.
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post
Goodell can re-frame the reason for the punishment.

And there is 40,000 slide powerpoint somewhere
The only way Roger re-frames anything is by doing this ...




40,000 PPT .... yeah right..... sure ...
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:01 PM   #136
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ASGDAKSDAGHSDAOSHDASGDQASDIH!!!!!!!!!

Had a long week of make-ups for law school and came back to this! Week MADE!

On another note, I really wish Prof. Feldman (aka @SportsLawGuy) wasn't on sabbatical this semester, I would be in his office daily.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:04 PM   #137
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i think the judge still has to rule on the panel reccomendation by sunday. we will still have to deal with suspensions for having a player pool. but this is a huge step in the truth coming out.
goodell better bring a private chef with him to new orleans or get used to spit in all of his food. he will be hard pressed to get a spit free meal anywhere in the city.
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Is Vilma health to be ready to play soon
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Originally Posted by Kosoma View Post
i think the judge still has to rule on the panel reccomendation by sunday. we will still have to deal with suspensions for having a player pool. but this is a huge step in the truth coming out.
goodell better bring a private chef with him to new orleans or get used to spit in all of his food. he will be hard pressed to get a spit free meal anywhere in the city.
I think spit in his meals may be a minor concern... =
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Oh when the Saints... come marchin in
When the Saints come marchin in
Will Smith will be in that number
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