Versus the Chiefs

|Mitch| · 09-18-2012, 11:31 AM

so wait; we are supposed to throw away the rest of the season so we can get the top draft pick?

You CAN'T be serious

lee909 · 09-18-2012, 11:33 AM

Suck for Luck

kcsaints · 09-18-2012, 12:14 PM

Absolutely the Saints can beat the Chiefs!

I'm from Kansas City and I have been a Chiefs fan since I was a kid and when I was 12 years old and they won the Super Bowl I wore that sweatshirt with pride till it fell apart.

Yes the Chiefs have some talent but I honestly feel they have also been out coached the last two games

GM Piloli is taking most of the heat this week for Sundays embarrassing 35-17 loss against the Bills - but I think there's plenty of blame to go around.

Arrowhead is loud - real loud - but the dome should play a factor - if the fans make it loud and keep it that way for the entire game.

Budsdrinker · 09-18-2012, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

OK, let's do it your way. Let's go out and win a couple of meaningless games. Let's beat the chefs, the raiders, maybe the yucks and cats at home, maybe win one or two other games and go 6-10 or 8-8 or whatever and then, instead of drafting at the top of rounds, be drafting in the middle like always and have to trade away draft picks to get players we need. (re: Mark Ingram) Does winning meaningless games REALLY mean that much? I'm more worried about the future than I am about this year where we've already fallen coming out of the blocks.

So exactly what college player do you see right now to draft that's worth throwing away games? Our QB is locked up for 5 years, Colston and Thomas are locked up, the window of opportunity is now not 5 years from now.

poydras · 09-18-2012, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

So exactly what college player do you see right now to draft that's worth throwing away games? Our QB is locked up for 5 years, Colston and Thomas are locked up, the window of opportunity is now not 5 years from now.

What you hope for is that some hotshot DOES emerge during the season (like last year) so that teams are willing to trade up for them and give us THEIR draft picks. We swap 1s and get their 2 and 3 and maybe a 1 the next year. Use those picks and our own and get the talent we need.
The thing is that this season ended before it started when our coach was taken away. I've had season tickets since I graduated from college and will have them for the next 20 years (god willing). I'm no longer concerned about this year. I want to have a team to cheer for the next 20.

lumm0x · 09-18-2012, 01:46 PM

0-2 people. KC is a beatable team. It's in our house. Granted I have no confidence in our defense but I do think we can put up more than they can and win it. We are a good enough offense to stay .500 while our defense rounds into below average form and actually gives us a chance to win a few where we can't score 30.

Jamessr · 09-18-2012, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

What you hope for is that some hotshot DOES emerge during the season (like last year) so that teams are willing to trade up for them and give us THEIR draft picks. We swap 1s and get their 2 and 3 and maybe a 1 the next year. Use those picks and our own and get the talent we need.
The thing is that this season ended before it started when our coach was taken away. I've had season tickets since I graduated from college and will have them for the next 20 years (god willing). I'm no longer concerned about this year. I want to have a team to cheer for the next 20.

That why you have NFL scouts....
They're watching folks that will be ready when that time comes. I'm NOT a fan of throwing away the season base off 2 games. I'm hoping things start clicking... soon

skymike · 09-19-2012, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same.

I wont flame you, because I like you, and someday you might save my life, or at least fix my
bellybutton. But I could never be on board with doing that. No way.
Neither Kromer, nor Vitt will do it, because this is Open Audition Time for
both of them.

poydras · 09-19-2012, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

I wont flame you, because I like you, and someday you might save my life, or at least fix my
bellybutton. But I could never be on board with doing that. No way.
Neither Kromer, nor Vitt will do it, because this is Open Audition Time for
both of them.

How about if we lose this weekend? How about if we go 0-6 before Vitt returns? At what point would you be willing to say "Yeah, go ahead and lose 'em all so we'll have a better team next year"?

CharityMike · 09-19-2012, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

Thunder/Lightning in Hillis/Charles

They were more like a sprinkle last week. Just sayin!! With no running qb to worry about, we can stop the run!

09-18-2012, 11:31 AM	#21
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Versus the Chiefs so wait; we are supposed to throw away the rest of the season so we can get the top draft pick? You CAN'T be serious

09-18-2012, 12:14 PM	#23
kcsaints Site Donor 2014 Kansas Who Dat Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 380	Re: Versus the Chiefs Absolutely the Saints can beat the Chiefs! I'm from Kansas City and I have been a Chiefs fan since I was a kid and when I was 12 years old and they won the Super Bowl I wore that sweatshirt with pride till it fell apart. Yes the Chiefs have some talent but I honestly feel they have also been out coached the last two games GM Piloli is taking most of the heat this week for Sundays embarrassing 35-17 loss against the Bills - but I think there's plenty of blame to go around. Arrowhead is loud - real loud - but the dome should play a factor - if the fans make it loud and keep it that way for the entire game.

09-18-2012, 12:44 PM	#24
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by poydras OK, let's do it your way. Let's go out and win a couple of meaningless games. Let's beat the chefs, the raiders, maybe the yucks and cats at home, maybe win one or two other games and go 6-10 or 8-8 or whatever and then, instead of drafting at the top of rounds, be drafting in the middle like always and have to trade away draft picks to get players we need. (re: Mark Ingram) Does winning meaningless games REALLY mean that much? I'm more worried about the future than I am about this year where we've already fallen coming out of the blocks. So exactly what college player do you see right now to draft that's worth throwing away games? Our QB is locked up for 5 years, Colston and Thomas are locked up, the window of opportunity is now not 5 years from now.

09-18-2012, 12:52 PM	#25
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by Budsdrinker So exactly what college player do you see right now to draft that's worth throwing away games? Our QB is locked up for 5 years, Colston and Thomas are locked up, the window of opportunity is now not 5 years from now. What you hope for is that some hotshot DOES emerge during the season (like last year) so that teams are willing to trade up for them and give us THEIR draft picks. We swap 1s and get their 2 and 3 and maybe a 1 the next year. Use those picks and our own and get the talent we need. The thing is that this season ended before it started when our coach was taken away. I've had season tickets since I graduated from college and will have them for the next 20 years (god willing). I'm no longer concerned about this year. I want to have a team to cheer for the next 20.

09-18-2012, 01:46 PM	#26
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09-18-2012, 05:33 PM	#27
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by poydras What you hope for is that some hotshot DOES emerge during the season (like last year) so that teams are willing to trade up for them and give us THEIR draft picks. We swap 1s and get their 2 and 3 and maybe a 1 the next year. Use those picks and our own and get the talent we need. The thing is that this season ended before it started when our coach was taken away. I've had season tickets since I graduated from college and will have them for the next 20 years (god willing). I'm no longer concerned about this year. I want to have a team to cheer for the next 20. That why you have NFL scouts.... They're watching folks that will be ready when that time comes. I'm NOT a fan of throwing away the season base off 2 games. I'm hoping things start clicking... soon

09-19-2012, 06:37 PM	#28
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by poydras The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same. I wont flame you, because I like you, and someday you might save my life, or at least fix my bellybutton. But I could never be on board with doing that. No way. Neither Kromer, nor Vitt will do it, because this is Open Audition Time for both of them.

09-19-2012, 07:19 PM	#29
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by skymike I wont flame you, because I like you, and someday you might save my life, or at least fix my bellybutton. But I could never be on board with doing that. No way. Neither Kromer, nor Vitt will do it, because this is Open Audition Time for both of them. How about if we lose this weekend? How about if we go 0-6 before Vitt returns? At what point would you be willing to say "Yeah, go ahead and lose 'em all so we'll have a better team next year"?

09-19-2012, 08:00 PM	#30
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by Shoe. Thunder/Lightning in Hillis/Charles They were more like a sprinkle last week. Just sayin!! With no running qb to worry about, we can stop the run! \|Mitch\| likes this.

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