Versus the Chiefs

poydras · 09-18-2012, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

Can we beat the Chiefs?

The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same.

SaintnDE · 09-18-2012, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same.

This is beyond shameful.

SaintsBro · 09-18-2012, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same.

There are not enough message board emoticons or internet slang or funny captioned pictures in the entire universe to convey how shameful and absurd and wrong this premise is.

Budsdrinker · 09-18-2012, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same.

No we do not! We are only missing a few players from being great and actually we may have them once they learn the new defensive scheme. Get Greer & Patrick back full from injury and they start playing the zone schemes like they are suppose to and not revert to man coverage like they did on that blown coverage of Smith on Sunday and this team will win. Can't believe after 2 games people are ready to write this team off!

Shoe. · 09-18-2012, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same.

We already have a good draft pick taken away- playing poorly won't bring that back.

Its like "Suck for Luck" all over again

What's the cutesy rhyme this year? Is there even anyone worth tanking a season for?

"Jonesin' for Jones" (Jarvis Jones, LB from UGA)

skymike · 09-19-2012, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same.

I wont flame you, because I like you, and someday you might save my life, or at least fix my
bellybutton. But I could never be on board with doing that. No way.
Neither Kromer, nor Vitt will do it, because this is Open Audition Time for
both of them.

poydras · 09-19-2012, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

I wont flame you, because I like you, and someday you might save my life, or at least fix my
bellybutton. But I could never be on board with doing that. No way.
Neither Kromer, nor Vitt will do it, because this is Open Audition Time for
both of them.

How about if we lose this weekend? How about if we go 0-6 before Vitt returns? At what point would you be willing to say "Yeah, go ahead and lose 'em all so we'll have a better team next year"?

skymike · 09-20-2012, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

How about if we lose this weekend? How about if we go 0-6 before Vitt returns? At what point would you be willing to say "Yeah, go ahead and lose 'em all so we'll have a better team next year"?

maybe at 0-14.
I disagree because:
-- there is no guarantee your #1 pick will produce. remember shawn knight?
-- we've actually had better luck with lower picks & free agents.
-- losing is also an attitude
-- just for the sake of honor. I couldnt do it. if it is ever confirmed that
teams do that, then football becomes wrestling.

poydras · 09-20-2012, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

maybe at 0-14.
I disagree because:
-- there is no guarantee your #1 pick will produce. remember shawn knight?
-- we've actually had better luck with lower picks & free agents.
-- losing is also an attitude
-- just for the sake of honor. I couldnt do it. if it is ever confirmed that
teams do that, then football becomes wrestling.

You didn't read my later posts where I explained the importance of moving up in the draft. It wasn't to get one particular player. Being the "colts" of this year would give us the option of drafting multiple players we need at the front of the draft. This was never a good idea a couple of years ago because you had to pay big money to untested players, but now, with a rookie salary cap ...............

... and really, at 0-13, you would want to give up the first overall pick just to win a totally meaningless game?? really?

skymike · 09-20-2012, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

You didn't read my later posts where I explained the importance of moving up in the draft. It wasn't to get one particular player. Being the "colts" of this year would give us the option of drafting multiple players we need at the front of the draft. This was never a good idea a couple of years ago because you had to pay big money to untested players, but now, with a rookie salary cap ...............

... and really, at 0-13, you would want to give up the first overall pick just to win a totally meaningless game?? really?

cmon, i've been a Saints fan nearly 30 years. I've been to whole lot of meaningless games and
wanted to win them all.

09-18-2012, 09:10 AM	#2
SaintnDE 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 443	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by poydras The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same. This is beyond shameful.
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09-18-2012, 09:34 AM	#3
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by poydras The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same. There are not enough message board emoticons or internet slang or funny captioned pictures in the entire universe to convey how shameful and absurd and wrong this premise is.

09-18-2012, 09:38 AM	#4
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by poydras The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same. No we do not! We are only missing a few players from being great and actually we may have them once they learn the new defensive scheme. Get Greer & Patrick back full from injury and they start playing the zone schemes like they are suppose to and not revert to man coverage like they did on that blown coverage of Smith on Sunday and this team will win. Can't believe after 2 games people are ready to write this team off!

09-18-2012, 09:49 AM	#5
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by poydras The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same. We already have a good draft pick taken away- playing poorly won't bring that back. Its like "Suck for Luck" all over again What's the cutesy rhyme this year? Is there even anyone worth tanking a season for? "Jonesin' for Jones" (Jarvis Jones, LB from UGA)

09-19-2012, 05:37 PM	#6
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by poydras The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same. I wont flame you, because I like you, and someday you might save my life, or at least fix my bellybutton. But I could never be on board with doing that. No way. Neither Kromer, nor Vitt will do it, because this is Open Audition Time for both of them.

09-18-2012, 08:37 AM	#1
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by skymike Can we beat the Chiefs? The question is do we want to. We need a major infusion of talent and we'll only get that with draft picks. It's obvious that, without a coach, this team is a ship without a rudder and is going nowhere. The colts bit the bullet last year and threw the season and now they have a foundation to build on. We need to do the same.

09-19-2012, 06:19 PM	#7
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by skymike I wont flame you, because I like you, and someday you might save my life, or at least fix my bellybutton. But I could never be on board with doing that. No way. Neither Kromer, nor Vitt will do it, because this is Open Audition Time for both of them. How about if we lose this weekend? How about if we go 0-6 before Vitt returns? At what point would you be willing to say "Yeah, go ahead and lose 'em all so we'll have a better team next year"?

09-20-2012, 11:21 AM	#8
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by poydras How about if we lose this weekend? How about if we go 0-6 before Vitt returns? At what point would you be willing to say "Yeah, go ahead and lose 'em all so we'll have a better team next year"? maybe at 0-14. I disagree because: -- there is no guarantee your #1 pick will produce. remember shawn knight? -- we've actually had better luck with lower picks & free agents. -- losing is also an attitude -- just for the sake of honor. I couldnt do it. if it is ever confirmed that teams do that, then football becomes wrestling.

09-20-2012, 11:49 AM	#9
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by skymike maybe at 0-14. I disagree because: -- there is no guarantee your #1 pick will produce. remember shawn knight? -- we've actually had better luck with lower picks & free agents. -- losing is also an attitude -- just for the sake of honor. I couldnt do it. if it is ever confirmed that teams do that, then football becomes wrestling. You didn't read my later posts where I explained the importance of moving up in the draft. It wasn't to get one particular player. Being the "colts" of this year would give us the option of drafting multiple players we need at the front of the draft. This was never a good idea a couple of years ago because you had to pay big money to untested players, but now, with a rookie salary cap ............... ... and really, at 0-13, you would want to give up the first overall pick just to win a totally meaningless game?? really?

09-20-2012, 11:52 AM	#10
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Versus the Chiefs Originally Posted by poydras You didn't read my later posts where I explained the importance of moving up in the draft. It wasn't to get one particular player. Being the "colts" of this year would give us the option of drafting multiple players we need at the front of the draft. This was never a good idea a couple of years ago because you had to pay big money to untested players, but now, with a rookie salary cap ............... ... and really, at 0-13, you would want to give up the first overall pick just to win a totally meaningless game?? really? cmon, i've been a Saints fan nearly 30 years. I've been to whole lot of meaningless games and wanted to win them all.

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