Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof )

Euphoria · 09-29-2012, 08:46 AM

Our team was built around the offense.

Payton comes to town and look at the 1st round drafts that were made... O. That is where our priorities were.

Talent on D is killing us.

halloween 65 · 09-29-2012, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

"Big" Sedrick Ellis should be packing already!

Now do you see!!

Shoe. · 09-29-2012, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Herring, Casillas, Hawthorne, Chamberlain, Arnoux, Wilson, Bussey, that Jax LB that GW liked, and probably a few others I can't recall.

That's quite a list, and this right here is something that bothers me. We've brought in a bunch of people to try to unseat a mediocre LB who has remained entrenched in his spot for several seasons now, and yet we still can't find anybody who is more than a slightly below-average player.

Who is picking these guys?? Why are we bringing them in to begin with?

I wonder if we have a deficiency in our talent evaluators and scouts on the defensive side of the ball. Its looking like Spags may be the best talent evaluator we've seen in quite a while, since two (and almost three if you count Marquis Johnson) of the people he picked in the last draft are already spending significant amounts of time on the field.

Not first round picks either, like GW had. Didn't he pick Malcolm, P-Rob, and Cameron Jordan? They're all above mediocre, but hey, they're first round talent, they're supposed to be better than that

Speedy Ron · 09-29-2012, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

And he probably is. Thats why he was voted defensive MVP by our own players.

Not hard to be a def MVP on our team. They give that to the guy who dresses out for every game

FinSaint · 09-29-2012, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

That's quite a list, and this right here is something that bothers me. We've brought in a bunch of people to try to unseat a mediocre LB who has remained entrenched in his spot for several seasons now, and yet we still can't find anybody who is more than a slightly below-average player.

Who is picking these guys?? Why are we bringing them in to begin with?

I wonder if we have a deficiency in our talent evaluators and scouts on the defensive side of the ball. Its looking like Spags may be the best talent evaluator we've seen in quite a while, since two (and almost three if you count Marquis Johnson) of the people he picked in the last draft are already spending significant amounts of time on the field.

Not first round picks either, like GW had. Didn't he pick Malcolm, P-Rob, and Cameron Jordan? They're all above mediocre, but hey, they're first round talent, they're supposed to be better than that

Maybe they should've used the 4th round pick to get another defensive player instead of picking up Toon who' s redshirted for the season.

I'd also add that Hawthorne was a very good pick up, but his natural position is at the MLB spot, so he has had to settle for his alternative spot, which he occasionally played in Seattle. The guy is a tackling machine, and I have to admit that I wanted him more than Lofton, but mainly because I thought he would be available for less than what Lofton was asking for... the preseason injury might've hampered him somewhat, but hopefully he'll be able to raise his performance level up to what it was in Seattle during the rest of the season.

And I do also think that given what we saw out of Chamberlain in the preseason, before his season ending injury, if he hadn't injured himself, I think that he would've taken Shanle's starting spot eventually.

Lastly, I've been super impressed with Casillas! Yeah, you heard me right. I've been super impressed by the fact that he hasn't yet suffered a serious injury which would've taken him out of the game, since that has been his M.O.

Danno · 09-29-2012, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Lastly, I've been super impressed with Casillas! Yeah, you heard me right. I've been super impressed by the fact that he hasn't yet suffered a serious injury which would've taken him out of the game, since that has been his M.O.

He's listed as OUT this weekend due to injury.

FinSaint · 09-30-2012, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

He's listed as OUT this weekend due to injury.

Yeah, I noticed that right after I made that post... go figure.

Danno · 09-30-2012, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Yeah, I noticed that right after I made that post... go figure.

Well now we've discovered who the jinx is here.

09-29-2012, 08:46 AM	#41
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Our team was built around the offense. Payton comes to town and look at the 1st round drafts that were made... O. That is where our priorities were. Talent on D is killing us.

09-29-2012, 10:41 AM	#42
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by FinSaint "Big" Sedrick Ellis should be packing already! Now do you see!!

09-29-2012, 11:48 AM	#43
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by Danno Herring, Casillas, Hawthorne, Chamberlain, Arnoux, Wilson, Bussey, that Jax LB that GW liked, and probably a few others I can't recall. That's quite a list, and this right here is something that bothers me. We've brought in a bunch of people to try to unseat a mediocre LB who has remained entrenched in his spot for several seasons now, and yet we still can't find anybody who is more than a slightly below-average player. Who is picking these guys?? Why are we bringing them in to begin with? I wonder if we have a deficiency in our talent evaluators and scouts on the defensive side of the ball. Its looking like Spags may be the best talent evaluator we've seen in quite a while, since two (and almost three if you count Marquis Johnson) of the people he picked in the last draft are already spending significant amounts of time on the field. Not first round picks either, like GW had. Didn't he pick Malcolm, P-Rob, and Cameron Jordan? They're all above mediocre, but hey, they're first round talent, they're supposed to be better than that

09-29-2012, 02:42 PM	#44
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by Danno And he probably is. Thats why he was voted defensive MVP by our own players. Not hard to be a def MVP on our team. They give that to the guy who dresses out for every game

09-29-2012, 06:11 PM	#45
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by Shoe. That's quite a list, and this right here is something that bothers me. We've brought in a bunch of people to try to unseat a mediocre LB who has remained entrenched in his spot for several seasons now, and yet we still can't find anybody who is more than a slightly below-average player. Who is picking these guys?? Why are we bringing them in to begin with? I wonder if we have a deficiency in our talent evaluators and scouts on the defensive side of the ball. Its looking like Spags may be the best talent evaluator we've seen in quite a while, since two (and almost three if you count Marquis Johnson) of the people he picked in the last draft are already spending significant amounts of time on the field. Not first round picks either, like GW had. Didn't he pick Malcolm, P-Rob, and Cameron Jordan? They're all above mediocre, but hey, they're first round talent, they're supposed to be better than that Maybe they should've used the 4th round pick to get another defensive player instead of picking up Toon who' s redshirted for the season. I'd also add that Hawthorne was a very good pick up, but his natural position is at the MLB spot, so he has had to settle for his alternative spot, which he occasionally played in Seattle. The guy is a tackling machine, and I have to admit that I wanted him more than Lofton, but mainly because I thought he would be available for less than what Lofton was asking for... the preseason injury might've hampered him somewhat, but hopefully he'll be able to raise his performance level up to what it was in Seattle during the rest of the season. And I do also think that given what we saw out of Chamberlain in the preseason, before his season ending injury, if he hadn't injured himself, I think that he would've taken Shanle's starting spot eventually. Lastly, I've been super impressed with Casillas! Yeah, you heard me right. I've been super impressed by the fact that he hasn't yet suffered a serious injury which would've taken him out of the game, since that has been his M.O.
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09-29-2012, 07:27 PM	#46
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,725	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by FinSaint Lastly, I've been super impressed with Casillas! Yeah, you heard me right. I've been super impressed by the fact that he hasn't yet suffered a serious injury which would've taken him out of the game, since that has been his M.O. He's listed as OUT this weekend due to injury.

09-30-2012, 05:10 AM	#47
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by Danno He's listed as OUT this weekend due to injury. Yeah, I noticed that right after I made that post... go figure.

09-30-2012, 09:19 AM	#48
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,725	Re: Whats wrong with our Defense ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by FinSaint Yeah, I noticed that right after I made that post... go figure. Well now we've discovered who the jinx is here.

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