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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by burningmetal He's a bust, period. Frankly, even if he were good it would still have been a bad pick based on needs. Wrong, based on needs he should have been our 1st pick over Jordan....
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09-27-2012, 05:54 PM | #21 |
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09-27-2012, 05:58 PM | #22 |
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That's a blind statement. Do you remember how bad our defense was and still is? I didn't like the Jordan pick at all, but I definitely wanted defense. Getting an OT wouldn't have hurt my feelings either, but there really weren't any worth taking at that point, as I remember.
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09-27-2012, 06:09 PM | #23 |
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We ran out of backs at the end of the '10 season because of an unprecedented amount of injuries. Those guys were coming back. But even if they hadn't, remember this: we scored 36 points with no running game against Seattle and still LOST. And we all remember how bad the Seahawks were against everyone else that year.
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09-27-2012, 06:13 PM | #24 |
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Damn right we needed defense. It was the right pick too... Cameron Jordan is our best D-Lineman now. I know, I know... that's not saying much lol.
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Originally Posted by burningmetal
Do you remember the only RB who's NFL future wasn't in doubt was Reggie Bush? And it would have cost us 12 million to keep him? There were serious doubt as to whether PT and Ivory would ever play another down in the NFL.
Do you remember Julius Jones and DeShawn Wynn were our only RB's? We drafted 6 players that year, all but Ingram were on the defensive side of the ball. Over the last 4 seasons we've drafted 20 players, 12 were defense and 8 were offense. |
09-27-2012, 06:21 PM | #26 |
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See my above post, first.
I'll add in response that there was never a question as whether any of those players careers were in doubt. It was how effective would they be when they recovered, and how long would it take them to recover. Yet, again, we still scored 36 points against Seattle. The Saints have drafted a lot of low round defenders. I'm talking about first round. How many impact defenders have we drafted recently? I'll echo something that someone else in here said, and that is that we have gotten the majority of our offensive talent in late rounds or as rookie free agents. There was no reason to panic and draft Ingram. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Originally Posted by burningmetal
I don't think we've drafted any impact players on either side of the ball in the 1st round. What makes you think we would have drafted one with the Ingram pick? In fact, the closest we've come to an impact player in the 1st round was Reggie Bush, a running back.
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09-27-2012, 06:37 PM | #28 |
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Gotta agree with Danno. At that time the Ingram pick made perfect sense! Right now I have to agree with the other board members that the playcalling is the main problem. You know a run up the middle is coming if he is on the field, so that needs to chance asap.
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09-27-2012, 07:47 PM | #29 |
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There was never any doubt that PT or Ivory would play another down in the NFL! I don't know where you get that at all. As far as never drafting an impact player in the first round, like I said: Cameron Jordan is doing a fantastic job as a run-stopping DE.
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