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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SaintsBro I'm not taking a side on all the medical stuff, but ya'll are forgetting that in 2010 at the time of his injury, the Seattle loss and the Ingram pick, Pierre was also in a contract ...
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09-28-2012, 06:10 PM | #51 |
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Re: Mark Ingram's Woes
Originally Posted by SaintsBro
I'm afraid you missed something huge that I already pointed out. Before the draft, the Saints had already signed Pierre to a 4 year deal. There was no uncertainty whatsoever. Plus, it was pretty obvious that he was healing just fine considering the deal they gave him.
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09-28-2012, 06:52 PM | #52 |
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Originally Posted by burningmetal
We didn't miss your point, we just disagree that he was a sure thing to play in 2011. And even so that gave us ONE RB to depend on, and there was no guarantee that he'd be fully healed.
So again, RB was a need. |
09-28-2012, 07:04 PM | #53 |
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Originally Posted by Danno
Did you read the post I was replying to? He said we should discuss the fact that Pierre was in a contract year, but I had already mentioned that Pierre was signed before the draft. I was speaking directly to him.
Now you can disagree with me all you want, but look at the results. I said it then, and I'm still saying that he was a bad choice. The Saints under Sean Payton will always be a RB by committee, because that's how his system works. You don't waste a first round pick on a committee player when you are starving for a pass rusher or a linebacker who can actually run with TE's and RB's, as the Saints were. That is my opinion, and I see nothing to suggest it isn't a valid one, but say what you will. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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09-28-2012, 07:22 PM | #54 |
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Originally Posted by CharityMike
That's what I'm saying :P
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09-30-2012, 06:49 AM | #56 |
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Originally Posted by Danno
The results show that we didn't need any RB's. You assumed it was a need. There were greater needs, it's very simple.
And don't misunderstand me, I totally get the whole 'you can never have too many RB's' line in theory. I get that there was at least a chance that these guys wouldn't come back fully healthy. But unfortunately there are only so many roster spots to be had, and we needed to upgrade the weakness of our team. Even with no RB's, our offense is better than most, usually. Not as good obviously, but still good enough to win if we could ever have a solid defense. Right now we have all of our weapons and we still can't beat anybody because the whole team is in a funk. But that's a whole different story. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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09-30-2012, 08:31 AM | #57 |
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Re: Mark Ingram's Woes
Personally I wanted LeShoure out of Illinoise but Ingram is not a bad pick , if he could line up with Ivory they would keep the D in tight and send our recievers seeing alot of one on one action and each time the D loosened up send Ivory or Ingram to smash it down their throat. We are a pass happy team there is no doubt about that but at 0-3 or 4 we may need to become a manage team for the rest of the season until Payton gets back and fixes this mess that we have become. Bet he is getting a good look at this mess and looking at college players for the draft alreasdy. The Packers had Laumbardi way back when, we have Payton which I feel is todays Packs old coach. This season is a good wake up call for all to see who actually is the face of this team.
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Fumbles, versatility, and pass protection.
Mark is better than Ivory at all 3. |
09-30-2012, 09:35 AM | #59 |
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Bottom line is he came out of college overrated and we bought high. Now is the time to sell before he gets too low. The guy is our 4th best back and cost us a rd 1 pick
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