What are we going to do about Hartley?

Papa Voodoo · 12-26-2012, 03:39 PM

I was about 75% sure he was going to miss the OT FG against Dallas. Fans should not have that feeling about a kick like that. I wanted to run it 3 times and then kick if we had to.

OldMaid · 12-26-2012, 05:47 PM

Easy. He needs some good competition brought in.
If I were him, during off season, I would be out there practicing.

SloMotion · 12-27-2012, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Bring in the kid from Tulane. He made every kick this year including 50+ kicks,won the Lou Graza award and is very comfortable kicking in the dome.
Cairo Santos.

Sounds like the Randy Bullock (Texas A&M) story from last year. 2011 Lou Graza Award winner, drafted in the fifth round by the Houston Texans. Spent the entire season on IR with a groin tear.

Gotta' be careful with these guys with the big legs, you can end up right back where you started from.

Mardigras9 · 12-27-2012, 08:06 AM

He is a head case. Do you guys really back him is we find ourselves in a position to go to the playoffs/superbowl depending on his foot? Yes, granted our superbowl year was his shining moment and we all thought we had a clutch kicker. But every year since has proven that is not the case. Every time he comes in for any kick (not an extra point, but sometimes them also) I have a 40 point spike in my blood pressure. Reminds me of crawling under my seat when Bush was returning punts. There has got to be a better option out there.
And if he is coming in for another team to possibly beat us, I like our chances. Rather have him on that side.

Papa Voodoo · 12-27-2012, 09:05 AM

2 years ago he missed a chip shot against ATL that sent our season on a different path. We likely would have had HFA. This year he missed in Green Bay which was a season killer. If he was missing longer, difficult kicks I would be more forgiving.

Vrillon82 · 12-27-2012, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Has he cost the Saints any games?

The Saints have a helluva lot bigger problems than the kicker!

1. A defense that is hemmoraghing points and yards
1a. We are without our head coach

Yeah I venture to say he cost us the GB and KC game.

That is a difference of being 9-6 right now compared to the 7-8 we currently setting on.

seems like he cost us another game to some point in the season, I dont remember.

dizzle88 · 12-27-2012, 10:30 AM

In my opinion (even though he's a bears player) robbie gould shows how to make every kick

on the chip shots he doesnt try to smack it like hartley does, hartley treats a 20 yarder like a 50 yarder and tries to snap the net

Gould "chips" the chip shot FGs and smacks the longer range, thats why he's been reliable for all his career

lynwood · 12-27-2012, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

In my opinion (even though he's a bears player) robbie gould shows how to make every kick

on the chip shots he doesnt try to smack it like hartley does, hartley treats a 20 yarder like a 50 yarder and tries to snap the net

Gould "chips" the chip shot FGs and smacks the longer range, thats why he's been reliable for all his career

Maybe he needs a better coach? Our WR coach left last year for the Tulane job and look at all of the dropped passes....

Jamessr · 12-27-2012, 12:06 PM

I'm not a Hartly fan by any means but it amazes me how people can soley blame him for the Green Bay and KC loss.
I mean really... the other 52 players and 59:00 minutes had nothing to do right?

For some reason I can't understand half of you

Papa Voodoo · 12-27-2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

I'm not a Hartly fan by any means but it amazes me how people can soley blame him for the Green Bay and KC loss.
I mean really... the other 52 players and 59:00 minutes had nothing to do right?

For some reason I can't understand half of you

He was put in a very favorable position by the offense after the defense made a stop. He is on the 3rd portion of the team, kicking. All he does is kick. He missed a very makeable kick with no real time left in the game. We lost.

Drew lost the SF and ATL games and those are his fault. The kick off coverage team lost the Giants game. Pick sixes, drive killing interceptions/fumbles, allowing kick off returns for TDs, and missing game winning kicks are hugely devastating.

12-26-2012, 03:39 PM	#61
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: What are we going to do about Hartley? I was about 75% sure he was going to miss the OT FG against Dallas. Fans should not have that feeling about a kick like that. I wanted to run it 3 times and then kick if we had to.

12-26-2012, 05:47 PM	#62
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,917 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What are we going to do about Hartley? Easy. He needs some good competition brought in. If I were him, during off season, I would be out there practicing.

12-27-2012, 06:52 AM	#63
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: What are we going to do about Hartley? Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Bring in the kid from Tulane. He made every kick this year including 50+ kicks,won the Lou Graza award and is very comfortable kicking in the dome. Cairo Santos. Sounds like the Randy Bullock (Texas A&M) story from last year. 2011 Lou Graza Award winner, drafted in the fifth round by the Houston Texans. Spent the entire season on IR with a groin tear. Gotta' be careful with these guys with the big legs, you can end up right back where you started from.

12-27-2012, 08:06 AM	#64
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: What are we going to do about Hartley? He is a head case. Do you guys really back him is we find ourselves in a position to go to the playoffs/superbowl depending on his foot? Yes, granted our superbowl year was his shining moment and we all thought we had a clutch kicker. But every year since has proven that is not the case. Every time he comes in for any kick (not an extra point, but sometimes them also) I have a 40 point spike in my blood pressure. Reminds me of crawling under my seat when Bush was returning punts. There has got to be a better option out there. And if he is coming in for another team to possibly beat us, I like our chances. Rather have him on that side.
	"Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil." - Jerry Garcia

12-27-2012, 09:05 AM	#65
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: What are we going to do about Hartley? 2 years ago he missed a chip shot against ATL that sent our season on a different path. We likely would have had HFA. This year he missed in Green Bay which was a season killer. If he was missing longer, difficult kicks I would be more forgiving.

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Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: What are we going to do about Hartley? Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Has he cost the Saints any games? The Saints have a helluva lot bigger problems than the kicker! 1. A defense that is hemmoraghing points and yards 1a. We are without our head coach Yeah I venture to say he cost us the GB and KC game. That is a difference of being 9-6 right now compared to the 7-8 we currently setting on. seems like he cost us another game to some point in the season, I dont remember.
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12-27-2012, 10:30 AM	#67
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: What are we going to do about Hartley? In my opinion (even though he's a bears player) robbie gould shows how to make every kick on the chip shots he doesnt try to smack it like hartley does, hartley treats a 20 yarder like a 50 yarder and tries to snap the net Gould "chips" the chip shot FGs and smacks the longer range, thats why he's been reliable for all his career

12-27-2012, 10:53 AM	#68
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Re: What are we going to do about Hartley? Originally Posted by dizzle88 In my opinion (even though he's a bears player) robbie gould shows how to make every kick on the chip shots he doesnt try to smack it like hartley does, hartley treats a 20 yarder like a 50 yarder and tries to snap the net Gould "chips" the chip shot FGs and smacks the longer range, thats why he's been reliable for all his career Maybe he needs a better coach? Our WR coach left last year for the Tulane job and look at all of the dropped passes....

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Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: What are we going to do about Hartley? I'm not a Hartly fan by any means but it amazes me how people can soley blame him for the Green Bay and KC loss. I mean really... the other 52 players and 59:00 minutes had nothing to do right? For some reason I can't understand half of you

12-27-2012, 01:35 PM	#70
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: What are we going to do about Hartley? Originally Posted by Jamessr I'm not a Hartly fan by any means but it amazes me how people can soley blame him for the Green Bay and KC loss. I mean really... the other 52 players and 59:00 minutes had nothing to do right? For some reason I can't understand half of you He was put in a very favorable position by the offense after the defense made a stop. He is on the 3rd portion of the team, kicking. All he does is kick. He missed a very makeable kick with no real time left in the game. We lost. Drew lost the SF and ATL games and those are his fault. The kick off coverage team lost the Giants game. Pick sixes, drive killing interceptions/fumbles, allowing kick off returns for TDs, and missing game winning kicks are hugely devastating. dizzle88 likes this.

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