Mark Ingram's role becoming clear

11-25-2012, 09:35 PM

Hello, Danno.

Ingram still your Fantasy go-to guy? LOL

Sit him.

Alaska

Danno · 11-25-2012, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Hello, Danno.

Ingram still your Fantasy go-to guy? LOL

Sit him.

Alaska

I don't play fantasy football anymore, and he was never my go-to guy.

Over-react much?

burningmetal · 11-25-2012, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

He was given the same chance, and fumbled too much in practice and sucked at pass protection.

But since we're playing the hypothetical Ingram vs Ivory nonsense...

He'd probably have been placed on IR by week 6, have 3 fumbles, and Brees may have suffered a serious injury because of a missed block by Ivory, and we'd probably still be 5-5 heading into this game.

I've noticed that you always defend Roman Harper and Mark Ingram. I have since become aware that you are a fan of their alma mater. Is this why you hate to see these guys criticized? Ivory hasn't fumbled in a game in two years, meanwhile Ingram couldn't pick up a first down 80 percent of the time. Who the hell cares about practice? This is getting ridiculous. The guy comes in and is our leading rusher since coming back, hasn't fumbled, and people criticize him. As for pass protection, where was Ingram today? where was anyone? I don't think any of our backs are exactly great in that department.

AlaskaSaints · 11-25-2012, 09:44 PM

Ingram got the start tonight and he still sucks.

Because he sucked, our fearless wizard of an offensive coordinator decided to only run Ivory a couple times up the middle to confirm the the RUN GAME IS FUTILE.

Pass. Pass. Pass.

FAIL

Alaska

Danno · 11-25-2012, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I've noticed that you always defend Roman Harper and Mark Ingram. I have since become aware that you are a fan of their alma mater. Is this why you hate to see these guys criticized? Ivory hasn't fumbled in a game in two years, meanwhile Ingram couldn't pick up a first down 80 percent of the time. Who the hell cares about practice? This is getting ridiculous. The guy comes in and is our leading rusher since coming back, hasn't fumbled, and people criticize him. As for pass protection, where was Ingram today? where was anyone? I don't think any of our backs are exactly great in that department.

I dislike unfair criticism. The Harper criticism is ridiculous. The Ingram hate is over the top.

I responded about Ivory in kind. I like Ivory, I like him a lot. But I'm not dumb enough to think he didn't have any weaknesses coming into this season. Our coach even said so.

Anyone with any football knowledge knows as the O-line goes, so do the RBs. Did you notice how much better the O-line started playing when Kromer went back to his O-line coaching position?

The Ingram haters refuse to see that. Just because Ivory is our best pure runner doesn't mean Ingram sucks. I just have to keep remembering there are a lot of young uninformed posters around here that just want to vent. So its all good I guess.

Was PT hurt? He had 1 carry for 0 yards. Why didn't he see the ball more?

AlaskaSaints · 11-25-2012, 09:50 PM

:YAWN:

Alaska

Danno · 11-25-2012, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

:YAWN:

Alaska

Need a nap?

AlaskaSaints · 11-25-2012, 09:53 PM

Im exhausted waiting for Ingram to produce.

Exhausted. He only runs well when he runs BEHIND Ivory. However, somehow, Ivory has his foot UP Ingram's azz.

Roll Tide

Alaska

burningmetal · 11-25-2012, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I dislike unfair criticism. The Harper criticism is ridiculous. The Ingram hate is over the top.

I responded about Ivory in kind. I like Ivory, I like him a lot. But I'm not dumb enough to think he didn't have any weaknesses coming into this season. Our coach even said so.

Anyone with any football knowledge knows as the O-line goes, so do the RBs. Did you notice how much better the O-line started playing when Kromer went back to his O-line coaching position?

The Ingram haters refuse to see that. Just because Ivory is our best pure runner doesn't mean Ingram sucks. I just have to keep remembering there are a lot of young uninformed posters around here that just want to vent. So its all good I guess.

Was PT hurt? He had 1 carry for 0 yards. Why didn't he see the ball more?

No friend, that is not unfair criticism. Remember last year when we ran the ball so well? Ingram was putrid. And our backs weren't playing awful early in the year, we were just constantly way behind. Like today. Now I said myself in another post that the line woke up, and that helped. But Thomas was playing ok when he WAS getting the ball, whereas Ingram wasn't. I agree that Ingram has been playing better, but all this stuff about eating crow that I keep hearing some people say, is BS. He was awful until very recently, and still isn't lighting it up. And who said Ivory had no weakness? They all have weaknesses. But Ivory, Thomas and Sproles have simply outplayed Ingram the majority of the time. I'll start giving Ingram credit when he shows more consistency.

As for Harper, his play is indefensible. He is almost always getting burned. Safeties are called safeties for a reason. they are supposed to keep everything in front of them. But both our safeties always seem to be behind.

As for PT today? Beats me. I have no idea what happened to him.

bobdog86 · 11-25-2012, 10:26 PM

Let's take the emotion out of it. Ivory deserves more work based on recent performances period. Ingram, PT less, Sproles less to a certain degree and Ivory more. Having four running backs involved in the offense to the extent that we rotate them is futile.

11-25-2012, 09:35 PM	#21
Threaded by AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2 Rating: (0 votes - average) Hello, Danno. Ingram still your Fantasy go-to guy? LOL Sit him. Alaska
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11-25-2012, 09:36 PM	#22
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Mark Ingram's role becoming clear Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Hello, Danno. Ingram still your Fantasy go-to guy? LOL Sit him. Alaska I don't play fantasy football anymore, and he was never my go-to guy. Over-react much?

11-25-2012, 09:37 PM	#23
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Mark Ingram's role becoming clear Originally Posted by Danno He was given the same chance, and fumbled too much in practice and sucked at pass protection. But since we're playing the hypothetical Ingram vs Ivory nonsense... He'd probably have been placed on IR by week 6, have 3 fumbles, and Brees may have suffered a serious injury because of a missed block by Ivory, and we'd probably still be 5-5 heading into this game. I've noticed that you always defend Roman Harper and Mark Ingram. I have since become aware that you are a fan of their alma mater. Is this why you hate to see these guys criticized? Ivory hasn't fumbled in a game in two years, meanwhile Ingram couldn't pick up a first down 80 percent of the time. Who the hell cares about practice? This is getting ridiculous. The guy comes in and is our leading rusher since coming back, hasn't fumbled, and people criticize him. As for pass protection, where was Ingram today? where was anyone? I don't think any of our backs are exactly great in that department.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-25-2012, 09:44 PM	#24
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Mark Ingram's role becoming clear Ingram got the start tonight and he still sucks. Because he sucked, our fearless wizard of an offensive coordinator decided to only run Ivory a couple times up the middle to confirm the the RUN GAME IS FUTILE. Pass. Pass. Pass. FAIL Alaska

11-25-2012, 09:45 PM	#25
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Mark Ingram's role becoming clear Originally Posted by burningmetal I've noticed that you always defend Roman Harper and Mark Ingram. I have since become aware that you are a fan of their alma mater. Is this why you hate to see these guys criticized? Ivory hasn't fumbled in a game in two years, meanwhile Ingram couldn't pick up a first down 80 percent of the time. Who the hell cares about practice? This is getting ridiculous. The guy comes in and is our leading rusher since coming back, hasn't fumbled, and people criticize him. As for pass protection, where was Ingram today? where was anyone? I don't think any of our backs are exactly great in that department. I dislike unfair criticism. The Harper criticism is ridiculous. The Ingram hate is over the top. I responded about Ivory in kind. I like Ivory, I like him a lot. But I'm not dumb enough to think he didn't have any weaknesses coming into this season. Our coach even said so. Anyone with any football knowledge knows as the O-line goes, so do the RBs. Did you notice how much better the O-line started playing when Kromer went back to his O-line coaching position? The Ingram haters refuse to see that. Just because Ivory is our best pure runner doesn't mean Ingram sucks. I just have to keep remembering there are a lot of young uninformed posters around here that just want to vent. So its all good I guess. Was PT hurt? He had 1 carry for 0 yards. Why didn't he see the ball more? Mikemike likes this.

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11-25-2012, 09:50 PM	#26
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11-25-2012, 09:52 PM	#27
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Mark Ingram's role becoming clear Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints :YAWN: Alaska Need a nap?

11-25-2012, 09:53 PM	#28
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Mark Ingram's role becoming clear Im exhausted waiting for Ingram to produce. Exhausted. He only runs well when he runs BEHIND Ivory. However, somehow, Ivory has his foot UP Ingram's azz. Roll Tide Alaska

11-25-2012, 10:05 PM	#29
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Mark Ingram's role becoming clear Originally Posted by Danno I dislike unfair criticism. The Harper criticism is ridiculous. The Ingram hate is over the top. I responded about Ivory in kind. I like Ivory, I like him a lot. But I'm not dumb enough to think he didn't have any weaknesses coming into this season. Our coach even said so. Anyone with any football knowledge knows as the O-line goes, so do the RBs. Did you notice how much better the O-line started playing when Kromer went back to his O-line coaching position? The Ingram haters refuse to see that. Just because Ivory is our best pure runner doesn't mean Ingram sucks. I just have to keep remembering there are a lot of young uninformed posters around here that just want to vent. So its all good I guess. Was PT hurt? He had 1 carry for 0 yards. Why didn't he see the ball more? No friend, that is not unfair criticism. Remember last year when we ran the ball so well? Ingram was putrid. And our backs weren't playing awful early in the year, we were just constantly way behind. Like today. Now I said myself in another post that the line woke up, and that helped. But Thomas was playing ok when he WAS getting the ball, whereas Ingram wasn't. I agree that Ingram has been playing better, but all this stuff about eating crow that I keep hearing some people say, is BS. He was awful until very recently, and still isn't lighting it up. And who said Ivory had no weakness? They all have weaknesses. But Ivory, Thomas and Sproles have simply outplayed Ingram the majority of the time. I'll start giving Ingram credit when he shows more consistency. As for Harper, his play is indefensible. He is almost always getting burned. Safeties are called safeties for a reason. they are supposed to keep everything in front of them. But both our safeties always seem to be behind. As for PT today? Beats me. I have no idea what happened to him.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-25-2012, 10:26 PM	#30
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,406	Re: Mark Ingram's role becoming clear Let's take the emotion out of it. Ivory deserves more work based on recent performances period. Ingram, PT less, Sproles less to a certain degree and Ivory more. Having four running backs involved in the offense to the extent that we rotate them is futile.

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