Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon

Jamessr · 11-27-2012, 07:56 AM

DE Will Smith $14.50m
WAYYYYYY overpaid. This will be focus #1 next year.

FinSaint · 11-27-2012, 08:08 AM

I don't agree with the "rebuilding" part, because the core of this team is solid as it is and that core is also sustainable.

So, it's more of a matter of "re-tooling" and finding players that suit the system, whether we are talking about the offense or the defense. Those players don't necessarily have to be highly paid FAs, just players who do their part and fit the system the Saints have already established.

I think the draft will be a very important determinant as to how next year's team is going to shape up, and they really need to hit on most of their picks, and hopefully they'll even get that 2nd round pick back.

Also, I think you forgot to mention that Bushrod will be an UFA, and I don't think they'll be bringing him back - at least with the current salary - so he'll probably be replaced by a cheaper player.

I would try and hang on to Hawthorne, because he is a really good LB, but he has had a difficult pre-season/season with the injuries which have reflected on to his contribution to the active roster. He was a really good catch last offseason, and he'll be an important contributor come next season if he can remain healthy - of which I have no doubt that he can.

FinSaint · 11-27-2012, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

#4 in yards per game
#5 in completions
#1 in TD's (31)
#9 in yards per completion
#7 in QB rating (98.5)
#8 in total offense (team)

Yeah you're right -- all the dude does is just show up and throw his touchdown pass. Let's keep it real...he is throwing 2.8 TDs per game, not ONE. Clearly the top 5 QB in their top 10 offense is to blame for the Saints record this year. /FAIL

I really missed the part where Alaska, or anyone else for that matter, made that statement.

UK_WhoDat · 11-27-2012, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by lynwood

Can't win every season. The fact we are still talking about making the playoffs this season is amazing in itself. Without Brees I doubt it would come up.

In chronological order.

The fact we went 0-4 this season was pretty sad.

Then....

The fact we are still talking about making the playoffs this season is amazing in itself.

TheOak · 11-27-2012, 08:49 AM

A lot of you are going to be damn tired..... If you jump on the hate wagon when Brees is blamed for a loss then you most certainly would have to jump on the love wagon when he is the reason we win?

Flip-Floping fkers...

RailBoss · 11-27-2012, 08:57 AM

Brees brings the team to an advantage every game. He can't operate under constant pressure which Frisco brought to the table. I can't imagine the game result with Chase calling the signals. Who Dat!

Mardigras9 · 11-27-2012, 09:30 AM

Brees threads the needle with his passes more times than not. Sometimes he is going to be intercepted trying to. I don't fault him. If the pass was successful and we went down and scored before half, we all would have been on cloud 9. That's the game.

TheOak · 11-27-2012, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by lynwood

Can't win every season.

In scholastic sports that is very true. When you are looking at a profit based business where the least valuable team is worth 800mm and the lowest revenue is 200mm/year... almost, good try, at least we had fun, does not cut it. ROI is expected now.

SaintsBro · 11-27-2012, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I really missed the part where Alaska, or anyone else for that matter, made that statement.

OK. You're 100% right there. Alaska said he was was CONSISTENTLY only good for showing up and throwing his one TD pass per game (the streak). I don't see much inconsistency in those numbers -- they are on a par with anything else in Brees' past career, and he is consistently throwing more than one TD pass a game. Alaska wanted to "get real." So I did by looking at his numbers. My bad.

I guess I just disagree, and I think he is consistently good for a lot more than just those two things that Alaska mentioned. I'm not burning with jealousy for some other QB on one of the other 31 teams right now.

alleycat_126 · 11-27-2012, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

I'm thrilled that Drew Brees is a Saint, however there are 31 other starting QB's in the league and quite a few of them have whipped our azz this year. You don't HAVE to be Drew Brees to win a Superbowl. There have been, what, 46 Superbowls won WITHOUT Drew Brees. Imagine that. I know a couple Mannings who have gotten back more than twice. The total DOLT Ben Roethlisburger gets Super Bowl repeats, for Christ's sake.

Love me some #9, but all this Superman shat is fantasy. When he stinks one up, he really stinks it up.

Really, the only thing he does CONSISTENTLY is start and throw at least ONE TD per game.

Again; LOVE me some Drew. But let's keep it real.

Alaska

Before you go off on a tangent let me stop you, Because there ain't no way in hell im giving up Brees for I probably can go straight away and say half the qbs in the league right now. It's no way you take down Saints passing records, NFL Records and assault teams with Alex Smith as your qb and and a so - so defense.

Here's what I do agree with you on.......
Jason Whitlock wrote a column before last year's playoff game. I wish I could find it. It seems like the 49ers read it and figured it out. The premise to the whole article was that once or twice a game be it because of his height, or pressure, or just focus loss Drew Brees will get inconsisent and give you an errant throw. So to the sucks it up thing.... It actually happens once or twice a game.

11-27-2012, 07:56 AM	#21
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon DE Will Smith $14.50m WAYYYYYY overpaid. This will be focus #1 next year.

11-27-2012, 08:08 AM	#22
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon I don't agree with the "rebuilding" part, because the core of this team is solid as it is and that core is also sustainable. So, it's more of a matter of "re-tooling" and finding players that suit the system, whether we are talking about the offense or the defense. Those players don't necessarily have to be highly paid FAs, just players who do their part and fit the system the Saints have already established. I think the draft will be a very important determinant as to how next year's team is going to shape up, and they really need to hit on most of their picks, and hopefully they'll even get that 2nd round pick back. Also, I think you forgot to mention that Bushrod will be an UFA, and I don't think they'll be bringing him back - at least with the current salary - so he'll probably be replaced by a cheaper player. I would try and hang on to Hawthorne, because he is a really good LB, but he has had a difficult pre-season/season with the injuries which have reflected on to his contribution to the active roster. He was a really good catch last offseason, and he'll be an important contributor come next season if he can remain healthy - of which I have no doubt that he can. SaintsBro likes this.
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11-27-2012, 08:10 AM	#23
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon Originally Posted by SaintsBro #4 in yards per game #5 in completions #1 in TD's (31) #9 in yards per completion #7 in QB rating (98.5) #8 in total offense (team) Yeah you're right -- all the dude does is just show up and throw his touchdown pass. Let's keep it real...he is throwing 2.8 TDs per game, not ONE. Clearly the top 5 QB in their top 10 offense is to blame for the Saints record this year. /FAIL I really missed the part where Alaska, or anyone else for that matter, made that statement.

11-27-2012, 08:21 AM	#24
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,984	Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon Originally Posted by lynwood Can't win every season. The fact we are still talking about making the playoffs this season is amazing in itself. Without Brees I doubt it would come up. In chronological order. The fact we went 0-4 this season was pretty sad. Then.... The fact we are still talking about making the playoffs this season is amazing in itself.

11-27-2012, 08:49 AM	#25
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon A lot of you are going to be damn tired..... If you jump on the hate wagon when Brees is blamed for a loss then you most certainly would have to jump on the love wagon when he is the reason we win? Flip-Floping fkers... Danno likes this.

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11-27-2012, 08:57 AM	#26
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon Brees brings the team to an advantage every game. He can't operate under constant pressure which Frisco brought to the table. I can't imagine the game result with Chase calling the signals. Who Dat!

11-27-2012, 09:30 AM	#27
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon Brees threads the needle with his passes more times than not. Sometimes he is going to be intercepted trying to. I don't fault him. If the pass was successful and we went down and scored before half, we all would have been on cloud 9. That's the game.

11-27-2012, 09:33 AM	#28
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon Originally Posted by lynwood Can't win every season. In scholastic sports that is very true. When you are looking at a profit based business where the least valuable team is worth 800mm and the lowest revenue is 200mm/year... almost, good try, at least we had fun, does not cut it. ROI is expected now.

11-27-2012, 09:41 AM	#29
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon Originally Posted by FinSaint I really missed the part where Alaska, or anyone else for that matter, made that statement. OK. You're 100% right there. Alaska said he was was CONSISTENTLY only good for showing up and throwing his one TD pass per game (the streak). I don't see much inconsistency in those numbers -- they are on a par with anything else in Brees' past career, and he is consistently throwing more than one TD pass a game. Alaska wanted to "get real." So I did by looking at his numbers. My bad. I guess I just disagree, and I think he is consistently good for a lot more than just those two things that Alaska mentioned. I'm not burning with jealousy for some other QB on one of the other 31 teams right now. TheOak and FinSaint like this.

11-27-2012, 10:01 AM	#30
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints I'm thrilled that Drew Brees is a Saint, however there are 31 other starting QB's in the league and quite a few of them have whipped our azz this year. You don't HAVE to be Drew Brees to win a Superbowl. There have been, what, 46 Superbowls won WITHOUT Drew Brees. Imagine that. I know a couple Mannings who have gotten back more than twice. The total DOLT Ben Roethlisburger gets Super Bowl repeats, for Christ's sake. Love me some #9, but all this Superman shat is fantasy. When he stinks one up, he really stinks it up. Really, the only thing he does CONSISTENTLY is start and throw at least ONE TD per game. Again; LOVE me some Drew. But let's keep it real. Alaska Before you go off on a tangent let me stop you, Because there ain't no way in hell im giving up Brees for I probably can go straight away and say half the qbs in the league right now. It's no way you take down Saints passing records, NFL Records and assault teams with Alex Smith as your qb and and a so - so defense. Here's what I do agree with you on....... Jason Whitlock wrote a column before last year's playoff game. I wish I could find it. It seems like the 49ers read it and figured it out. The premise to the whole article was that once or twice a game be it because of his height, or pressure, or just focus loss Drew Brees will get inconsisent and give you an errant throw. So to the sucks it up thing.... It actually happens once or twice a game.

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