Jabari Greer, Brees and others

Joker · 12-10-2012, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by BusDriver

I'm sure arm strength has nothing to do with it, not to mention he was wearing gloves & the cold & the rain on top of it.

What was the excuse for the "5" INT game, no gloves, rain, cold weather or any of the things mentioned above. If we're going to slam everyone who has a bad game or two then Drew should be treated the same.
I'll be the first to agree that without Sean Payton this team is not the same but no more excuses for Drew's terrible play over the past month.

saintsfan403 · 12-10-2012, 10:44 AM

Look at the play calling. That second pick was all because of lousy play calling. Ingram had a good run, we got a holding penalty and instead of trying to gain some yards on the ground before airing it out, they call for a 25 yard bomb. Awful play calling and missing training camp didn't help none.

dizzle88 · 12-10-2012, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

Look at the play calling. That second pick was all because of lousy play calling. Ingram had a good run, we got a holding penalty and instead of trying to gain some yards on the ground before airing it out, they call for a 25 yard bomb. Awful play calling and missing training camp didn't help none.

Brees is fully to blame for that, he held out, got his money and is now making sure we get a top ten draft pick

SaintsBro · 12-10-2012, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

Drew doing too much???? What does that mean exactly? he is doing exactly what he has been doing for the last 5 years just not as good. I hate to be the guy but i think we have seen his best years. The whole "drew doing too much" is bogus. drew trying to do too much would be him trying to kick field goals now

This Drew looks to me exactly like the 2008 Drew, interceptions and all. When he had no defense to back him up, he definitely takes it all on his shoulders and tries to do too much. Maybe you did not see him that year, compared to the better defense and more balanced running attack years of Drew 2009 and 2011.

dizzle88 · 12-10-2012, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

This Drew looks to me exactly like the 2008 Drew, interceptions and all. When he had no defense to back him up, he definitely takes it all on his shoulders and tries to do too much. Maybe you did not see him that year, compared to the better defense and more balanced running attack years of Drew 2009 and 2011.

I know what you mean, Like you say in 2008 brees had no running game and no defense, so why he is playing worse now than in 2008?

Brees threw 34 TD, 17 ints in 2008, he already had 18 ints now, with 3 weeks left

we have a running game and a defense that held ATL to 23 points when he turned it over 5 times, held SF to 17 points before brees threw two pick 6's and bailed the offense out twice with interceptions yesterday?

vpheughan · 12-10-2012, 11:28 AM

Let's see if Drew throws 50+ times a game it makes his arm weak and because of him missing training camp (this is week 13) it makes him inaccurate. We should get one of the Cardinals QB's their arms are nice a rested!!

BusDriver · 12-10-2012, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Joker

What was the excuse for the "5" INT game, no gloves, rain, cold weather or any of the things mentioned above. If we're going to slam everyone who has a bad game or two then Drew should be treated the same.
I'll be the first to agree that without Sean Payton this team is not the same but no more excuses for Drew's terrible play over the past month.

No excuses, just a different opinion. 9 picks, 3 games, facts are fact, even if not all the picks were his fault he still gets credit for them. I just don't believe its his arm strength, more than self pressure & bad decisons. I can't stand how they are playing, its awful and its not just him.

Beastmode · 12-10-2012, 12:21 PM

I don't have a problem with the picks, it's when it's happening that bothers me. If we are down and he throws some dangerous passes ok, but that's not what's going on. He throws dangerous passes all the time.
We could be up by 10 and he will still do it. If he doesn't do that we could have probably scraped out a few more W's .

Ashley · 12-10-2012, 01:02 PM

I want to see us run the damn ball more. Drew has always missed the deep balls. That's nothing new, as far as the int's that is all him. Balls are to high, or being thrown behind or wr's.
On the cb's Greer was our best, and I have to agree this year he looks like Jason David!
Bottom line we need to run the damn ball, and on the D implode the whole unit. Most will not be back, so I don't think we will have to worry about that.

Ashley · 12-10-2012, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by BusDriver

, even if not all the picks were his fault he still gets credit for them. .

They were all his fault. They were too high or behind the WR's. yes the hit them in the hands, but come on when a WR is stretched out as far as they can go? Come on . It's the 100 million dollar mans fault... who carry's the blame, Head coaches and Qb's

12-10-2012, 10:38 AM	#11
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Originally Posted by BusDriver I'm sure arm strength has nothing to do with it, not to mention he was wearing gloves & the cold & the rain on top of it. What was the excuse for the "5" INT game, no gloves, rain, cold weather or any of the things mentioned above. If we're going to slam everyone who has a bad game or two then Drew should be treated the same. I'll be the first to agree that without Sean Payton this team is not the same but no more excuses for Drew's terrible play over the past month. dizzle88 likes this.

12-10-2012, 10:44 AM	#12
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Look at the play calling. That second pick was all because of lousy play calling. Ingram had a good run, we got a holding penalty and instead of trying to gain some yards on the ground before airing it out, they call for a 25 yard bomb. Awful play calling and missing training camp didn't help none.

12-10-2012, 11:02 AM	#13
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Originally Posted by saintsfan403 Look at the play calling. That second pick was all because of lousy play calling. Ingram had a good run, we got a holding penalty and instead of trying to gain some yards on the ground before airing it out, they call for a 25 yard bomb. Awful play calling and missing training camp didn't help none. Brees is fully to blame for that, he held out, got his money and is now making sure we get a top ten draft pick

12-10-2012, 11:05 AM	#14
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Originally Posted by Speedy Ron Drew doing too much???? What does that mean exactly? he is doing exactly what he has been doing for the last 5 years just not as good. I hate to be the guy but i think we have seen his best years. The whole "drew doing too much" is bogus. drew trying to do too much would be him trying to kick field goals now This Drew looks to me exactly like the 2008 Drew, interceptions and all. When he had no defense to back him up, he definitely takes it all on his shoulders and tries to do too much. Maybe you did not see him that year, compared to the better defense and more balanced running attack years of Drew 2009 and 2011.

12-10-2012, 11:13 AM	#15
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Originally Posted by SaintsBro This Drew looks to me exactly like the 2008 Drew, interceptions and all. When he had no defense to back him up, he definitely takes it all on his shoulders and tries to do too much. Maybe you did not see him that year, compared to the better defense and more balanced running attack years of Drew 2009 and 2011. I know what you mean, Like you say in 2008 brees had no running game and no defense, so why he is playing worse now than in 2008? Brees threw 34 TD, 17 ints in 2008, he already had 18 ints now, with 3 weeks left we have a running game and a defense that held ATL to 23 points when he turned it over 5 times, held SF to 17 points before brees threw two pick 6's and bailed the offense out twice with interceptions yesterday?

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12-10-2012, 11:28 AM	#16
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,521	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Let's see if Drew throws 50+ times a game it makes his arm weak and because of him missing training camp (this is week 13) it makes him inaccurate. We should get one of the Cardinals QB's their arms are nice a rested!!
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12-10-2012, 11:48 AM	#17
BusDriver 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ICT Kansas Posts: 183	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Originally Posted by Joker What was the excuse for the "5" INT game, no gloves, rain, cold weather or any of the things mentioned above. If we're going to slam everyone who has a bad game or two then Drew should be treated the same. I'll be the first to agree that without Sean Payton this team is not the same but no more excuses for Drew's terrible play over the past month. No excuses, just a different opinion. 9 picks, 3 games, facts are fact, even if not all the picks were his fault he still gets credit for them. I just don't believe its his arm strength, more than self pressure & bad decisons. I can't stand how they are playing, its awful and its not just him.

12-10-2012, 12:21 PM	#18
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others I don't have a problem with the picks, it's when it's happening that bothers me. If we are down and he throws some dangerous passes ok, but that's not what's going on. He throws dangerous passes all the time. We could be up by 10 and he will still do it. If he doesn't do that we could have probably scraped out a few more W's .
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12-10-2012, 01:02 PM	#19
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others I want to see us run the damn ball more. Drew has always missed the deep balls. That's nothing new, as far as the int's that is all him. Balls are to high, or being thrown behind or wr's. On the cb's Greer was our best, and I have to agree this year he looks like Jason David! Bottom line we need to run the damn ball, and on the D implode the whole unit. Most will not be back, so I don't think we will have to worry about that.

12-10-2012, 01:04 PM	#20
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Originally Posted by BusDriver , even if not all the picks were his fault he still gets credit for them. . They were all his fault. They were too high or behind the WR's. yes the hit them in the hands, but come on when a WR is stretched out as far as they can go? Come on . It's the 100 million dollar mans fault... who carry's the blame, Head coaches and Qb's
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