spkb25

Man I must be the only one hoping he stays. I thought the D really showed a lot of improvement.

ST coach may need to go or WR coach or DLine coach.

Jamessr

I'm not sure how I feel about this one tbh.

The guy came into alot of issues with the GM, assistant head coach and the Head Coach being suspended.

However this guy isn't a rookie coach. I still personally blame him for not judging his guys to see how much of the new scheme was working. It wasn't until Vilma came back that some blitz were used. And we had somewhat good results.

As far as the player quaility... I'm not sure about that either.

westbankdaze

We have probs with personnel and coaching. Our defense has ranked in the bottom for the last 4 seasons with the exception of 2010. I still can't figure out what we were doing that season that made the def click but it does seem to show that we might be able to get it done with the players we have.

Still I don't think spags zone defense works for our guys. GW knew how much are players blew that's why he threw so many blitzes during his tenure.

I'm not a fan of spags - not with his record the last few seasons as a HC or a def coach. I gave him the benefit of the doubt at season's start but the scheme has just plain stunk all season.

I really think MJ is a bust and as much as I loved Harper in the day he just isn't there any more. We need a polamalu big time back there.

Our corners I think can improve and I am not sold and letting them all go.

The defensive line could get better but we need some freaking linebackers big time. I think lofton is good but I don't know what we are going to to do about the other two positions.

Part of me would like to see us get a 3-4 defense back like the ole days but how many players do we need to get to do that?

Utah_Saint

I don't think it was the turn overs. The Saints only had 9 interceptions that season. Lowest number in the NFL. They were in the bottom third of the league in total turnovers that season.

We actually had 1 more turn over this year than we did that season.

Vrillon82

in 09 they had more than 9 ints didnt they?

They had an int in just about every game.

Utah_Saint

2010

Long thread. westbankdaze said that the Saints defense has been bad every year for the last 4 years except 2010 (Saints were the 4th best that season in yards allowed) and he didn't know why the defense seemed to click that year.

Budsdrinker

I think there is a little confusion on years here. Yes 2009 the superbowl year we had 41 turnovers 26 ints but 2010 we actually gave up fewer yards and only had 9 ints but 34 total turnovers. The major difference is turnover ratio. 2009 we were +11 and 2010 we were -6. Defense only meltdown was the Seattle playoff game. Drew also had 22 ints which greatly affected the turnover ratio. Anyway you look at it the defense has always given up big plays and missed tackles for the last 10 years. La'Roi Glover and Joe Johnson were the last time we had a good D-line.

pumpkindriver

As bad as our defense was this season, there were flashes of briliance. In the SP era, we've always given up tons of yardage. I don't think we really have the personnel atm to be effective in Spag's scheme but with some key moves in the off season and perhaps drafting some good young talent maybe we can turn the corner defensively next year. We all have our opinions, mine is for keeping Spags for one more season, but ML,SP and the rest of the front office will decide what they think is best. All we can do is go "Wahhhhhh" if we don't like or agree with it.

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st thomas

Just how many of us would really be pissed off hurt is he did get canned?

Utah_Saint

I think that with all the team was going through this season and with the clear improvement of the defense over the last half of the season, he deserves at least another season.

Would I be pissed off hurt if he got canned? No. Worst defense in the history of the NFL.