B_Dub_Saint

How in the hell is Patrick cut before p.rod?

Seer1

Hahaha! Because he sucked worse?

Danno

Patrick Robinson isn't a bad CB and has huge upside.

burningmetal

Could you elaborate on this?

Danno

Yes, in his 2nd year under GW he started improving quite a bit. It looked like he was progressing nicely. He even looked to be passing Greer as our best CB. Then came Spags.

Patrick Robinson has all the tools to be a solid CB in this league. Under the right coachiong he may turn out very well. Johnny Patrick... not so much.

burningmetal

Ok, well... That is how some saw him going into the season. I, for one, never saw much improvement. He showed flashes, but that was it.

The assumption you're making (and let me say that I hope you're right), is that he struggled this year because of a new system. I don't think that was it. The real adjustment fell on the front seven. Robinson, if he WERE a good corner, should have been able to keep up with receivers. His only real strength is his speed. Yet they were blowing by him, left and right, because his instincts are horrible.

Instincts are the hallmark of any good player, regardless of talent level.

Here's the other reason I believe to be part of his struggles. His second year was his first significant action, and I think opposing coaches were able to use that film to really dissect his weaknesses. I can see where a new scheme would affect him to a degree, but he was plain awful. The difference of zone or man coverage is not so great that a good player couldn't at least perform admirably.

I'm all for talking about upside, but at some point you gotta deliver. Calling him a good corner is what raised my eyebrow. Potential does not equal quality. It merely presents the possibility.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

FinSaint

I agree completely with Danno on this. During his 2nd year there was a noticeable improvement in how Robinson played, and that is definitely what you are looking in a 2nd year player. Robinson is clearly better suited for man coverage than zone, because he isn't physical enough to re-route receivers from the LOS, but he has great athleticism to blanket receivers down the field. I would be ready to place a monetary bet on the fact that Robinson's performances will improve quite a lot just by the Saints' backfield reverting back to a man coverage scheme, but I also think that he has taken a lot out of this past season's problems and will improve both mentally and physically for the coming season.

"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

Seer1

I had a realtor tell me that about a house once. Now I worry when I hear the words upside and po-tential.

vpheughan

17 TE's since 2006 and counting.

hagan714

its all about the cap. Thomas i understand to a point. Patrick as a 3rd could have been held on to and moved down the depth chart. but we need money

plenty of TE on the FA market and the Draft.

CB are bit thin in the draft for man coverage but there are some nice big CB that can play man coverage. FA looks to be getting crowded this year if all the rumors are true around the NFL

we are looking for a nickle or dime guy to replace patrick. they are out there

next up to the chopping block?

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins