Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade

hagan714 · 04-25-2013, 10:17 AM

package harper our 15 to kc for Albert and picks. there is another option.

then trade ivory for the 5th from the jets

NuNu318 · 04-25-2013, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

package harper our 15 to kc for Albert and picks. there is another option.

then trade ivory for the 5th from the jets

And how exactly are we going to pay Albert. He wants top 5 LT money even if we were to negotiate his longterm contract instead of paying him the Franchise tage money this yr which is 9.5mil.

Harper frees up 6-7mil and we have like a mil or 2 in cap space.....bu how are we going to pay the other draft picks?

homerj07 · 04-25-2013, 10:42 AM

ARRR to much uncertainty!! Just draft well DARN IT!!!

Seer1 · 04-25-2013, 11:21 AM

Throwing out Harper questions today. If he's so bad, why does he keep leading the team in tackles? (Did Lofton pass him up last year?) Why hasn't he been cut yet? Even with some dead money issues, wouldn't that have still saved us some $$$? If he's so bad, who is gonna want to trade for him? Could it be that Rob has a plan for him? -They have their Wildcat offense, we have our Neck defense? Maybe he gets rejuvenated under Rob? Not in love with the guy or anything, just trying to get through to draft time...

Danno · 04-25-2013, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Throwing out Harper questions today. If he's so bad, why does he keep leading the team in tackles? (Did Lofton pass him up last year?) Why hasn't he been cut yet? Even with some dead money issues, wouldn't that have still saved us some $$$? If he's so bad, who is gonna want to trade for him? Could it be that Rob has a plan for him? -They have their Wildcat offense, we have our Neck defense? Maybe he gets rejuvenated under Rob? Not in love with the guy or anything, just trying to get through to draft time...

He's overpaid.
He was signed as a crucial player in Gregg Williams' defense.
He's not nearly as bad as many think.
He plays Strong Safety.
He covers like a Strong Safety.
He's not a CB or a FS or a LB.
He has hands of stone, which may be insulting to some stones.
He fits best with a team that uses a traditional SS/FS set-up.
He plays great within 15 yards from the LOS, as do most SS's.
If we cut him he'd be unemployed less than 2 weeks.
At his salary he's probably not gonna draw much trade interest.
He blows very few plays every year, but when he does its ugly.

hagan714 · 04-25-2013, 11:40 AM

no harper is not on my hit list at all. i am just looking at options that not only free cap but helps get players to fill a void in the draft

depending on the contract the Albert really wants is another story. i know his stand with KC and i think its kinda of a broken nose if KC goes for an OT an want him to play RT cutting his contract demands for next year. Now i am guessing if he is traded to a team like new orleans he might be a little more open to being flexible with his contract. so maybe harper for albert would be a wash

yes hand grenades and horse shoes going on here

Seer1 · 04-25-2013, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

He's overpaid.

He has hands of stone, which may be insulting to some stones.

Hahahahaha!

He blows very few plays every year, but when he does its ugly.

We had a whole lot of ugly last year!

Danno · 04-25-2013, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

We had a whole lot of ugly last year at every position!

FIFY!

Rugby Saint II · 04-25-2013, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

If we could trade back what about sorting both tackle positions with Fluker and Faulk?.
We can manage at RT but the chance to have the whole O-Line under contract for the foreseeable future.

I don't think we can aford to go that direction. We are too porous on defense and need to use our limited draft picks to bring in guys who fit RR scheme.

04-25-2013, 10:17 AM	#21
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade package harper our 15 to kc for Albert and picks. there is another option. then trade ivory for the 5th from the jets

04-25-2013, 10:26 AM	#22
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade Originally Posted by hagan714 package harper our 15 to kc for Albert and picks. there is another option. then trade ivory for the 5th from the jets And how exactly are we going to pay Albert. He wants top 5 LT money even if we were to negotiate his longterm contract instead of paying him the Franchise tage money this yr which is 9.5mil. Harper frees up 6-7mil and we have like a mil or 2 in cap space.....bu how are we going to pay the other draft picks?

04-25-2013, 10:42 AM	#23
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade ARRR to much uncertainty!! Just draft well DARN IT!!! hagan714 likes this.

04-25-2013, 11:21 AM	#24
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade Throwing out Harper questions today. If he's so bad, why does he keep leading the team in tackles? (Did Lofton pass him up last year?) Why hasn't he been cut yet? Even with some dead money issues, wouldn't that have still saved us some $$$? If he's so bad, who is gonna want to trade for him? Could it be that Rob has a plan for him? -They have their Wildcat offense, we have our Neck defense? Maybe he gets rejuvenated under Rob? Not in love with the guy or anything, just trying to get through to draft time...
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04-25-2013, 11:39 AM	#25
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade Originally Posted by Seer1 Throwing out Harper questions today. If he's so bad, why does he keep leading the team in tackles? (Did Lofton pass him up last year?) Why hasn't he been cut yet? Even with some dead money issues, wouldn't that have still saved us some $$$? If he's so bad, who is gonna want to trade for him? Could it be that Rob has a plan for him? -They have their Wildcat offense, we have our Neck defense? Maybe he gets rejuvenated under Rob? Not in love with the guy or anything, just trying to get through to draft time... He's overpaid. He was signed as a crucial player in Gregg Williams' defense. He's not nearly as bad as many think. He plays Strong Safety. He covers like a Strong Safety. He's not a CB or a FS or a LB. He has hands of stone, which may be insulting to some stones. He fits best with a team that uses a traditional SS/FS set-up. He plays great within 15 yards from the LOS, as do most SS's. If we cut him he'd be unemployed less than 2 weeks. At his salary he's probably not gonna draw much trade interest. He blows very few plays every year, but when he does its ugly. lumm0x likes this.

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04-25-2013, 11:40 AM	#26
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade no harper is not on my hit list at all. i am just looking at options that not only free cap but helps get players to fill a void in the draft depending on the contract the Albert really wants is another story. i know his stand with KC and i think its kinda of a broken nose if KC goes for an OT an want him to play RT cutting his contract demands for next year. Now i am guessing if he is traded to a team like new orleans he might be a little more open to being flexible with his contract. so maybe harper for albert would be a wash yes hand grenades and horse shoes going on here
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04-25-2013, 11:52 AM	#27
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade Originally Posted by Danno He's overpaid. He has hands of stone, which may be insulting to some stones. Hahahahaha! He blows very few plays every year, but when he does its ugly. We had a whole lot of ugly last year!

04-25-2013, 12:02 PM	#28
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade Originally Posted by Seer1 We had a whole lot of ugly last year at every position! FIFY! Seer1 likes this.

04-25-2013, 12:56 PM	#29
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade Originally Posted by lee909 If we could trade back what about sorting both tackle positions with Fluker and Faulk?. We can manage at RT but the chance to have the whole O-Line under contract for the foreseeable future. I don't think we can aford to go that direction. We are too porous on defense and need to use our limited draft picks to bring in guys who fit RR scheme.

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