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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by burningmetal I have nothing to add to the hammering, as none of this is surprising to me. I'm just glad to see the majority of our fans are finally getting it. I couldn't take the excuses people ...

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Old 09-19-2013, 06:30 PM   #1
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Re: Ingram- What do we do with him?

Originally Posted by burningmetal View Post
I have nothing to add to the hammering, as none of this is surprising to me. I'm just glad to see the majority of our fans are finally getting it. I couldn't take the excuses people were making up for him anymore.

"He gets better with more carries".

"The offensive line only blocks for the other backs".

"Last year he was overweight, but this year he's lighter on his feet".


At some point, if you are actually a capable runner, you have to be able to overcome whatever circumstances you have. Be it the system, the blocking, or whatever. When you are consistently awful and your teammates are all out producing you, the fact is that you are just not good.
No one made those excuses.

Some say he needs more carries, not that he gets better with carries. No one knows if he gets better with more carries or not.

Many agree the blocking is awful when he gets the handoff, even his detractors agree with that. No one said the O-line only blocks for other backs. Watch more football sport.

And no one said he was over-weight last year, only that this year he appeared to be in great shape. Pay attention, it helps.

Typical uninformed agenda driven drivel... predictable.
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Re: Ingram- What do we do with him?

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No one made those excuses.

Some say he needs more carries, not that he gets better with carries. No one knows if he gets better with more carries or not.

Many agree the blocking is awful when he gets the handoff, even his detractors agree with that. No one said the O-line only blocks for other backs. Watch more football sport.

And no one said he was over-weight last year, only that this year he appeared to be in great shape. Pay attention, it helps.

Typical uninformed agenda driven drivel... predictable.
Danno, I wasn't speaking to you and yet I was certain you would be the first to respond. You have been undoubtedly Ingram's biggest supporter on this board.

Who are you to tell me who I have spoken to, or what I have read? Are you stalking me, sport? I have read and heard NUMEROUS times "he gets better with more carries". It is irrelevant how many touches he has ever had in a single game, as this has been an assumption made without regard to facts by many, many people.

You say that many agree he gets no blocking when he gets the ball. Therein lies the excuse "the offensive line only blocks for the other backs". I put it in a sarcastic light, but believe me I have heard some tell it in those words... As if ALL of our other backs over the past couple years get better blocking than one freaking guy who magically disappears when he's in the game.

And finally, yes people have most definitely said he was overweight before. I didn't say morbidly obese. I'm not talking Jerome Bettis (though he sure managed to have a successful career). But when someone says a player is lighter on their feet, you are not going to bull s*** me that they aren't saying he was overweight before. That's a rather petty argument you're trying to make.

Before you call someone uninformed again, you might want to acquire a clue of your own.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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