lee909

The mans cap numbers are $2.6ml this year and $1.3/1.4ml in the nect two years though unlike this year none id guaranteed

TheOak

A valid argument... and probably the reason he is still in a Saints Uniform.

jeanpierre

"ay, there's the rub..." Shakespeare (Hamlet)

QBREES9

Oh boy here we go.

jeanpierre

Hey, he did this to himself...

Left Tackle, Outside Linebacker and Special Teams were going to be the biggest concerns for this team...

And he definitely "unsettled" Coach Payton today...

jeanpierre

Against a lesser team with a backup quarterback, maybe not...

But if that had been Seattle, Carolina, 49ers - those misses costs us the game, home field advantage, and any mental advantage for the tournament...

dizzle88

yeah it would have cost us the game, how many times a season do we have to through this, hartley does it all the time and nothing ever happens about it

thebdj

I'm surprised by the lack of vitriol towards Hartley today. He is a 'Harry Hook Shot'. You watch whenever he misses, they are always horrible hooked shots off to the left. Yesterday was embarrassing.

I'm sure someone will mention the Superbowl 44 run and how good he was blah blah blah but why don't we throw a poll out there? I am definitely not the only one who is expecting him to miss every time he hits a FG. I am waiting for it to hook every single time and find myself surprised when it doesn't.

We got let off the hook yesterday because the Bills kept turning it over and because we overpowered them on offence. JP nailed it on the head. How costly are these mistakes against a Seattle, Carolina or 49ers? They can come back to haunt you.

People forget that it isn't just the opportunity of putting 3 points on the board, it is more often than not a very good starting field position for the opposition. That can kill you.

I am not saying we make a radical change in the middle of the season as that can be as damaging, if not more, but I would definitely be keeping an eye on other kickers and I would say he is done in New Orleans after this season. We need a Matt Prater or a Robbie Gould. Those guys are money.

jeanpierre

Can't just wail on Hartley, that was a sloppy game...

Charles Brown looks bad at LT including ANOTHER Holding Call; Grubbs getting manhandled is becoming a recurring theme which is contrary to his reputation of being a "mauler"; when Zach Strief, who probably has a difficult time with line dancing, is having to make "athletic" plays and Evans is having to block both his and de la Puenta's man - wow, just, wow...

And WTF was up with Drew and the Referee?!? Did someone not share in the Ladies room before coming out for the game?!?

It's quite the statement to hang 35 points in a "sloppy game", but had that been a playoff contender, I'm not sure the outcome is the same...

All teams have sloppy games, but starting to get the sense that we're taking too long to come out the gate, especially the way the defense is getting the ball back this season...

Just not trying to get too high or too low that's all...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

thebdj

I do totally agree with you on this JP. It is easy just to hang Hartley up for yesterday's performance. He was shameful but so was a whole host of other things. The better part of the first 22 minutes of gametime was dreadful.

The O-line is probably my biggest concern on the field by some way at the moment. Brees had no time and were it not for PT being able to find lanes that simply do not exist, our running game could have been worse. Interesting to see K-Rob stuffed in the backfield sometimes. I'm not defending Ingram but you start to see why some of his stats were so woeful!

On the bright side, we played poorly for a large percentage of the game and did what we do best which is rally. There were more positives than negatives and I like the fact we are all, well most of us, on a quest for perfection whilst being realistic. You don't have a game where everything comes together very often.

I also think our BYE week was just in the right position. It gave us some healing time and some regrouping time. Sure this game was sloppy. The Jets game has all the hall marks of being a real slog. The cowboys game could end up being an unnecessarily close game but let's use those to start blowing out the cobwebs and accelerate into the final stretch and go hard or go home into the playoffs, whatever our seeding.

This is all happening at the right time. So many chances to get better on all of this.