SaintsBro

The penalty box idea would work, like it does in hockey, because it causes the actions of an individual to hurt the TEAM, instead of help the team, thus putting the stigma on the person who made the egregious play, where it belongs, turning the team and the coaches and the fans against the dirty player, instead of them celebrating him....another alternative way to do it that would be totally unfair, but would absolutely 100% work to stop dirty hits? To fine the WHOLE DEFENSIVE UNIT for a dirty or questionable hit -- every player listed on the defense gets a fine, whether they were on the bench or on the field or even on IR. You get a guy like Goldson or the guy who hit Graham, making headhunter hits like that, with it affecting the wallets of all 20-something guys in the unit, who ride home with him on the plane and watch film with him on Mondays? The hits would stop .... or the players in question would play themselves out of a job. That would be a way to let the locker room police itself and let the players enforce what the league cannot. Because nobody can survive in the NFL if the other players in that locker room don't have your back or aren't on your side.

SapperSaint

The hit on Jimmy is when I wish Kyle Turley was still around. Or a person of his equal.

I would have drug that SOB by the face mask until his head popped off!

Call me what you want, but I would have been looking for the oportunity to give that guy a helmet to knee cap hit. So I give our guys a bunch of kudos for "self restraint".

BusDriver

Goldson gets a 1 game suspension, the league should make him miss the 12/29 game against us. Why should another team get the advantage of not having him on the field? Maybe they should make it a rule that game suspension will be enforced that way when done in division.

TheOak

Come on gents.. You are shooting the messenger and not the sender.

What is going on on the field is driven by the Organizations culture and it is based on risk/reward.

Is it coincidence that certain teams like the Raiders were home to some of the dirtiest players in football? No sir. That was driven by Al Davis.

Is it coincidence that the Steelers were fined 13 times for $182,000 in 2011?

Is it coincidence that the Ravens were the heaviest fined team in 2012 with $237,875 with $126,000 of that going to Ed Reed?

Unnecessary Roughness
Top 3 so far in 2013
San Francisco
Baltimore
Tampa bay

2012
Baltimore
San Francisco

The risk/reward

Risk ~ Division Game Sunday Night, risk losing Goldsen for a game against the Patriots a non division, non conference game.

Reward ~ Take out Brees, Graham, Sproles... If you knock any one of those players out of that game and we lose.

If I were the sort of Coach that played that way that is a risk I would take every day for that reward.

As far as for fining all the players, you cant by CBA. On placing a stigma on the offending player.. I have yet to see he fans, team, or anyone turn on Suh, Harrison..

Suspending players for a few games has yet to deter anything what so ever... Since 1 Jan 2013 23 NFL players have been suspended for violations of the leagues substance abuse policy... Are suspensions working? NOPE. There is a depth chart for that...

Will the word Bounty ever be murmured in a Saints locker room again? Nope... Because the organization and the culture were hit. And if there were never a Bounty program to start with, you can bet there will never be one started.

I am fully appreciate that not many see my point of view. There is overwhelming evidence to show that fines and suspensions and "player punishment" do not work... They keep on keeping on. At some point the risk has to become greater than the reward.

SmashMouth

Bounty part deux?

TheOak

Should probably just throw Suh and Goldsen some meat cleavers and let em start hacking after the coin flip.

The Dude

I was thinking the same thing after that hit on graham. I like the idea that if a team gets a certain number of personal fouls they start losing time outs. If one player continues to do it they get ejected in addition.

TheOak

Ejection from that actual game is possible like college... immediate impact. However there are some that are not called penalties on the field but fined later...


Anyway since I can not get people to understand my point I will just play hardball.

We sit here week in, and week out, and read about players that have their season or careers ended... voicing "I would never want to see another player hurt"!

But cheer, condone, and try to protect the very actions that cause some of those very tragedies.

Hypocrisy?

vpheughan

"Egregious Personal Fouls" didn't he play RB for the Patriots?

Rugby Saint II

Fine the team and player. Add in suspensions as well.