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Old 09-17-2013, 12:44 PM   #1
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Re: Saints' Sean Payton takes blame for fourth-and-goal misfire

This is what a good coach does. Privately I bet he is just as frustrated with Ingram as the rest of us. You might notice that Ingram played very few snaps in the second half of that game and I think only touched the ball once.

Also, forget Ivory. He's too injury prone to play that "tough back" role effectively over the course of a whole season. But you know who I miss? Mike Bell. That dude was money, a perfect fit for the offense, and we let him walk for nothing.
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This is what a good coach does. Privately I bet he is just as frustrated with Ingram as the rest of us. You might notice that Ingram played very few snaps in the second half of that game and I think only touched the ball once.

Also, forget Ivory. He's too injury prone to play that "tough back" role effectively over the course of a whole season. But you know who I miss? Mike Bell. That dude was money, a perfect fit for the offense, and we let him walk for nothing.

Yea but we would have to assign Mike Bell his own personal equipment manager.
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This is what a good coach does. Privately I bet he is just as frustrated with Ingram as the rest of us. You might notice that Ingram played very few snaps in the second half of that game and I think only touched the ball once.

Also, forget Ivory. He's too injury prone to play that "tough back" role effectively over the course of a whole season. But you know who I miss? Mike Bell. That dude was money, a perfect fit for the offense, and we let him walk for nothing.
Right about Ivory, but Mike Bell was no better than Ingram.
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Right about Ivory, but Mike Bell was no better than Ingram.
I'd argue that he was. He was more consistent, showed the ability to carry the load by himself in several games, and was dependable in short yardage. All things that Ingram lacks.

He also wouldn't have cost a first-round draft pick. All because we overreacted to all the running back injuries from the year before.
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You might notice that Ingram played very few snaps in the second half of that game and I think only touched the ball once.
If true, this could turn out to be SUPER important....

Because once you're in Payton's doghouse, you pretty much become invisible to him. I remember watching Reggie Bush on the sidelines in the Seattle playoff loss, standing next to him, being totally IGNORED by Payton, who literally wouldn't even look at him, except for shooting him DON'T EVEN THINK OF TALKING TO ME looks. Mike Bell slipped on the one yard line, got yelled at, disappeared in the second half of the Super Bowl, and never came back. Remember the interview where Chris Ivory actually came out and said, the coaches "weren't talking to him" during practice....I even remember some game years ago with Joe Horn, seeing him on the sidelines, on TV, looking like he wanted desperately to go in the game, and getting the ignore treatment from Payton.


This could be about to get interesting.
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If true, this could turn out to be SUPER important....

Because once you're in Payton's doghouse, you pretty much become invisible to him. I remember watching Reggie Bush on the sidelines in the Seattle playoff loss, standing next to him, being totally IGNORED by Payton, who literally wouldn't even look at him, except for shooting him DON'T EVEN THINK OF TALKING TO ME looks. Mike Bell slipped on the one yard line, got yelled at, disappeared in the second half of the Super Bowl, and never came back. Remember the interview where Chris Ivory actually came out and said, the coaches "weren't talking to him" during practice....I even remember some game years ago with Joe Horn, seeing him on the sidelines, on TV, looking like he wanted desperately to go in the game, and getting the ignore treatment from Payton.


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Just went through the play by play.. Looks like Ingram had 2 touches in the 3rd Qtr and none in the 4th Qtr.
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