Khiry Robinson runs nasty

Tobias-Reiper · 09-23-2013, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I am always curious as to what yardage "counts".. If we are up by 24 the ground yardage is garbage, if we are down by 24 the passing yardage is garbage.. Ifa team gets dominated by another team we say they got their azz whipped but dont * with they gave up at the 1/2, or the other team gave up that's why they threw up a 40 burger..

Performance only counts when the game is within 14? The inconsistency throws me off a bit.

It is not what yardage counts. It is what you make yardage count against.

Do you "count" the same a defense credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss during the victory formation vis a vis a defense that is credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss in a goal line stand?

In both cases, the stats say "3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss".

TheOak · 09-23-2013, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

It is not what yardage counts. It is what you make yardage count against.

Do you "count" the same a defense credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss during the victory formation vis a vis a defense that is credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss in a goal line stand?

In both cases, the stats say "3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss".

Either way you ended the drive, I would personally think the 3 run stuffs that were not near the GL more important as in my mind they were not within field goal range.

The 3 run stuffs near the GL did keep TDs off the board but the box was a lot smaller and the play was anticipated...

Is that where you were going?

iceshack149 · 09-23-2013, 01:03 PM

Something to consider; Brees was the leading rusher in the game until Robinson took the snaps the rest of the way.

The Dude · 09-23-2013, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Something to consider; Brees was the leading rusher in the game until Robinson took the snaps the rest of the way.

I thought that was hilarious.

TheOak · 09-23-2013, 01:13 PM

Its a team, they got it done. Leave any QB in this league that much space to run and see what happens.

i am just tickled pink that it crossed his mind to run.... forward.

arsaint · 09-23-2013, 01:14 PM

And Ingram hasn't fumbled???

I say give KRob a chance. If he's a fumbler we need to know so we can free up a roster spot.

This isn't last year's Saints - one turnover does not equate to the D soiling itself and giving up 7 automatically.

ikecomp · 09-23-2013, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Something to consider; Brees was the leading rusher in the game until Robinson took the snaps the rest of the way.

Correct. Our line does not do a very good job of pushing or creating big holes. All the more reason to have a back in the backfield that is capable of exploiting whatever space is given to him.

I'm not saying it's fair but given this is the line we have and it's not going to change much throughout the season, I want backs back there that could at least be effective from time to time rather than not all. If you look at all our backs, ingram has been the one that consistently appears ineffective. At least sproles or PT can you give flashes. With ingram, there is barely a sparkle.

Once again, the point isn't to say he's not good at all. He's just not good for our line and our scheme for whatever reasons the football gods have deemed necessary.

Saintaintso · 09-23-2013, 01:23 PM

You can't run with a hurt toe ... Let K Rob start and see if the excitement changes anything in the running game ( Like Ivory Did ) ... When Ingram Is Healthy again Ingram will Be Fresh and Sprinkle Him in on the Runs until we figure it out. Ingram gets motivated by seeing other guys shine in his spot.

Creates Competition , Let's Ingram Heal and Figure out how to fit in with the Scheme , Motivates the team , Gives reason for excitement ... Win for all Parties involved

Mardigras9 · 09-23-2013, 01:26 PM

Like to see him early in the rotation with PT, then make a decision.

TheOak · 09-23-2013, 01:27 PM

Someone has to sit to allow a RB to play.. I am not going to give up a extra defensive player, a lineman, a WR so Ingram can find his motivation.

Not willing to give those players up as thin as we are in some spots.

09-23-2013, 12:28 PM	#41
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by TheOak I am always curious as to what yardage "counts".. If we are up by 24 the ground yardage is garbage, if we are down by 24 the passing yardage is garbage.. Ifa team gets dominated by another team we say they got their azz whipped but dont * with they gave up at the 1/2, or the other team gave up that's why they threw up a 40 burger.. Performance only counts when the game is within 14? The inconsistency throws me off a bit. It is not what yardage counts. It is what you make yardage count against. Do you "count" the same a defense credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss during the victory formation vis a vis a defense that is credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss in a goal line stand? In both cases, the stats say "3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss".

09-23-2013, 12:54 PM	#42
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper It is not what yardage counts. It is what you make yardage count against. Do you "count" the same a defense credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss during the victory formation vis a vis a defense that is credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss in a goal line stand? In both cases, the stats say "3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss". Either way you ended the drive, I would personally think the 3 run stuffs that were not near the GL more important as in my mind they were not within field goal range. The 3 run stuffs near the GL did keep TDs off the board but the box was a lot smaller and the play was anticipated... Is that where you were going?

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by iceshack149 Something to consider; Brees was the leading rusher in the game until Robinson took the snaps the rest of the way. I thought that was hilarious.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Its a team, they got it done. Leave any QB in this league that much space to run and see what happens. i am just tickled pink that it crossed his mind to run.... forward.

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ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by iceshack149 Something to consider; Brees was the leading rusher in the game until Robinson took the snaps the rest of the way. Correct. Our line does not do a very good job of pushing or creating big holes. All the more reason to have a back in the backfield that is capable of exploiting whatever space is given to him. I'm not saying it's fair but given this is the line we have and it's not going to change much throughout the season, I want backs back there that could at least be effective from time to time rather than not all. If you look at all our backs, ingram has been the one that consistently appears ineffective. At least sproles or PT can you give flashes. With ingram, there is barely a sparkle. Once again, the point isn't to say he's not good at all. He's just not good for our line and our scheme for whatever reasons the football gods have deemed necessary.
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Saintaintso 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 937	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty You can't run with a hurt toe ... Let K Rob start and see if the excitement changes anything in the running game ( Like Ivory Did ) ... When Ingram Is Healthy again Ingram will Be Fresh and Sprinkle Him in on the Runs until we figure it out. Ingram gets motivated by seeing other guys shine in his spot. Creates Competition , Let's Ingram Heal and Figure out how to fit in with the Scheme , Motivates the team , Gives reason for excitement ... Win for all Parties involved
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Someone has to sit to allow a RB to play.. I am not going to give up a extra defensive player, a lineman, a WR so Ingram can find his motivation. Not willing to give those players up as thin as we are in some spots.

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