Khiry Robinson runs nasty

ikecomp · 09-23-2013, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Something to consider; Brees was the leading rusher in the game until Robinson took the snaps the rest of the way.

Correct. Our line does not do a very good job of pushing or creating big holes. All the more reason to have a back in the backfield that is capable of exploiting whatever space is given to him.

I'm not saying it's fair but given this is the line we have and it's not going to change much throughout the season, I want backs back there that could at least be effective from time to time rather than not all. If you look at all our backs, ingram has been the one that consistently appears ineffective. At least sproles or PT can you give flashes. With ingram, there is barely a sparkle.

Once again, the point isn't to say he's not good at all. He's just not good for our line and our scheme for whatever reasons the football gods have deemed necessary.

ikecomp · 09-23-2013, 10:57 AM

While I'm going to take Krob's performance with a grain of salt given the situation, I would like to see him at least get a few touches. I think ingram has problems with his vision and finding whatever holes are there. I think cadet can be good but I don't trust his ball security. This leaves me with just krob, pt and sproles.

One thing is for sure we need get drews passing attempts down. He's is taken way too many hits this year. If that means, taking a shot with krob than so be it but please do something to protect drew.

PS. Did anyone else notice how bad ben watson looked in pass protection?

alleycat_126 · 09-26-2013, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by ikecomp

PS. Did anyone else notice how bad ben watson looked in pass protection?

Yes. Shawn Payton......

TheOak · 09-23-2013, 11:14 AM

I am always curious as to what yardage "counts".. If we are up by 24 the ground yardage is garbage, if we are down by 24 the passing yardage is garbage.. Ifa team gets dominated by another team we say they got their azz whipped but dont * with they gave up at the 1/2, or the other team gave up that's why they threw up a 40 burger..

Performance only counts when the game is within 14? The inconsistency throws me off a bit.

Tobias-Reiper · 09-23-2013, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I am always curious as to what yardage "counts".. If we are up by 24 the ground yardage is garbage, if we are down by 24 the passing yardage is garbage.. Ifa team gets dominated by another team we say they got their azz whipped but dont * with they gave up at the 1/2, or the other team gave up that's why they threw up a 40 burger..

Performance only counts when the game is within 14? The inconsistency throws me off a bit.

It is not what yardage counts. It is what you make yardage count against.

Do you "count" the same a defense credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss during the victory formation vis a vis a defense that is credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss in a goal line stand?

In both cases, the stats say "3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss".

TheOak · 09-23-2013, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

It is not what yardage counts. It is what you make yardage count against.

Do you "count" the same a defense credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss during the victory formation vis a vis a defense that is credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss in a goal line stand?

In both cases, the stats say "3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss".

Either way you ended the drive, I would personally think the 3 run stuffs that were not near the GL more important as in my mind they were not within field goal range.

The 3 run stuffs near the GL did keep TDs off the board but the box was a lot smaller and the play was anticipated...

Is that where you were going?

Tobias-Reiper · 09-23-2013, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Either way you ended the drive, I would personally think the 3 run stuffs that were not near the GL more important as in my mind they were not within field goal range.

The 3 run stuffs near the GL did keep TDs off the board but the box was a lot smaller and the play was anticipated...

Is that where you were going?

You either are trolling me, or missed the "victory formation" part

TheOak · 09-23-2013, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

You either are trolling me, or missed the "victory formation" part

Neither... Loaded on sinus medicine today... Sorry if I misunderstood.

TheOak · 09-23-2013, 11:19 AM

We stack reasons why Ingram isn't preforming well, or why Robinson ran well like pancakes at Denny's.

It is what it is, and we burn way to many brain cells trying to figure out what it isn't.

TheOak · 09-23-2013, 12:13 PM

Its a team, they got it done. Leave any QB in this league that much space to run and see what happens.

i am just tickled pink that it crossed his mind to run.... forward.

09-23-2013, 12:15 PM	#1
ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by iceshack149 Something to consider; Brees was the leading rusher in the game until Robinson took the snaps the rest of the way. Correct. Our line does not do a very good job of pushing or creating big holes. All the more reason to have a back in the backfield that is capable of exploiting whatever space is given to him. I'm not saying it's fair but given this is the line we have and it's not going to change much throughout the season, I want backs back there that could at least be effective from time to time rather than not all. If you look at all our backs, ingram has been the one that consistently appears ineffective. At least sproles or PT can you give flashes. With ingram, there is barely a sparkle. Once again, the point isn't to say he's not good at all. He's just not good for our line and our scheme for whatever reasons the football gods have deemed necessary.
ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329

09-23-2013, 10:57 AM	#2
ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty While I'm going to take Krob's performance with a grain of salt given the situation, I would like to see him at least get a few touches. I think ingram has problems with his vision and finding whatever holes are there. I think cadet can be good but I don't trust his ball security. This leaves me with just krob, pt and sproles. One thing is for sure we need get drews passing attempts down. He's is taken way too many hits this year. If that means, taking a shot with krob than so be it but please do something to protect drew. PS. Did anyone else notice how bad ben watson looked in pass protection?
ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329

09-26-2013, 07:22 AM	#3
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by ikecomp PS. Did anyone else notice how bad ben watson looked in pass protection? Yes. Shawn Payton......

09-23-2013, 11:14 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty I am always curious as to what yardage "counts".. If we are up by 24 the ground yardage is garbage, if we are down by 24 the passing yardage is garbage.. Ifa team gets dominated by another team we say they got their azz whipped but dont * with they gave up at the 1/2, or the other team gave up that's why they threw up a 40 burger.. Performance only counts when the game is within 14? The inconsistency throws me off a bit. UK_WhoDat and SaintGup like this.

09-23-2013, 11:28 AM	#5
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by TheOak I am always curious as to what yardage "counts".. If we are up by 24 the ground yardage is garbage, if we are down by 24 the passing yardage is garbage.. Ifa team gets dominated by another team we say they got their azz whipped but dont * with they gave up at the 1/2, or the other team gave up that's why they threw up a 40 burger.. Performance only counts when the game is within 14? The inconsistency throws me off a bit. It is not what yardage counts. It is what you make yardage count against. Do you "count" the same a defense credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss during the victory formation vis a vis a defense that is credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss in a goal line stand? In both cases, the stats say "3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss".

09-23-2013, 11:54 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper It is not what yardage counts. It is what you make yardage count against. Do you "count" the same a defense credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss during the victory formation vis a vis a defense that is credited with 3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss in a goal line stand? In both cases, the stats say "3 consecutive run stuffs for a loss". Either way you ended the drive, I would personally think the 3 run stuffs that were not near the GL more important as in my mind they were not within field goal range. The 3 run stuffs near the GL did keep TDs off the board but the box was a lot smaller and the play was anticipated... Is that where you were going?

09-23-2013, 12:33 PM	#7
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by TheOak Either way you ended the drive, I would personally think the 3 run stuffs that were not near the GL more important as in my mind they were not within field goal range. The 3 run stuffs near the GL did keep TDs off the board but the box was a lot smaller and the play was anticipated... Is that where you were going? You either are trolling me, or missed the "victory formation" part

09-23-2013, 02:11 PM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper You either are trolling me, or missed the "victory formation" part Neither... Loaded on sinus medicine today... Sorry if I misunderstood.

09-23-2013, 11:19 AM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty We stack reasons why Ingram isn't preforming well, or why Robinson ran well like pancakes at Denny's. It is what it is, and we burn way to many brain cells trying to figure out what it isn't.

09-23-2013, 12:13 PM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Its a team, they got it done. Leave any QB in this league that much space to run and see what happens. i am just tickled pink that it crossed his mind to run.... forward.

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