Loss to pats on Payton and Brees

blackangold · 10-14-2013, 01:18 PM

I have a question.

Who is this Colston guy that lead the team in receiving over the last 7 years; maybe he is on IR?

dizzle88 · 10-14-2013, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I have a question.

Who is this Colston guy that lead the team in receiving over the last 7 years; maybe he is on IR?

Brees only looks at jimmy graham, it took him 3 quarters to throw to a different receiver

|Mitch| · 10-14-2013, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Brees only looks at jimmy graham, it took him 3 quarters to throw to a different receiver

Talib and the Pats said they had the answer to Graham; Brees, Payton, and Graham wanted to prove them otherwise. Ego got in the way perhaps?

Who knows when Graham suffered his injury or what would have happened if he would have stayed healthy

blackangold · 10-14-2013, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Talib and the Pats said they had the answer to Graham; Brees, Payton, and Graham wanted to prove them otherwise. Ego got in the way perhaps?

Who knows when Graham suffered his injury or what would have happened if he would have stayed healthy

I think your right with the ego assumption.
Anytime Brees has a 47% completion rating you know something has gone wrong. Has Brees ever had that low of a percentage?

iceshack149 · 10-14-2013, 02:20 PM

I love this board but Halo's right. You'd think that the Saints were 1-4 like the Falcons and even if they were, we should see some better banter. Many of the discussions lately are weak and people want to blame a team game on one person or the refs that were so obviously paid off

.

I still love this team and have since they were 1-15 in 1981. We are lucky to have one of the best Head Coach/Quarterback combos in the NFL. Enjoy it, people!

Edit: By the way, the Saints are tied with the best record in the NFC. They are on track to end up with the #1 or #2 seed. Perspective...

UK_WhoDat · 10-14-2013, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I think your right with the ego assumption.
Anytime Brees has a 47% completion rating you know something has gone wrong. Has Brees ever had that low of a percentage?

Recent low completion percentage games are:
(Year; Game number %age)
2013:2 56.5%, Tampa
2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta
2012:8 52.4%;
2012:3 55.6%;
2012:1 46.2%
Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com
Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

SaintsBro · 10-14-2013, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

Well I have said for a long time that the loss to Atlanta last year was "ego-driven" because of the streak. The Falcons knew that Brees and Carmichael were gonna go for the TD pass, whenever possible, and they did a really great job of taking it away from him, and keeping the passing game in front of them. The Falcons had a "whatever you do, don't give up the big passing play" mentality on defense. The more the game went on, the more desperate Brees got, and next thing you know it was the badly forced two minute drive to end the half, and then it turned into interception city in the second half.

I don't think in the Graham case yesterday it was "ego." I think it was just, dependency --the thing has *always* worked before, and they had gotten a little too reliant on going to him.

blackangold · 10-14-2013, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

Recent low completion percentage games are:
(Year; Game number %age)
2013:2 56.5%, Tampa
2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta
2012:8 52.4%;
2012:3 55.6%;
2012:1 46.2%
Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com
Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

Ego driven or not the only game we won on that list was this year against Tampa. Brees has a bad game and we lose (typically). It has been a great start to the season and being 5-1 at this point is better than I thought (4-2). We have an easy shot at the #2 seed, and we'll fight for #1.

One thing is for sure, had the NE game been played in the DOME we walk away with an easy win.

Vrillon82 · 10-15-2013, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

Recent low completion percentage games are:
(Year; Game number %age)
2013:2 56.5%, Tampa
2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta
2012:8 52.4%;
2012:3 55.6%;
2012:1 46.2%
Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com
Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

Could be.

NE game he was often looking at 2 places, Jimmy Graham or down field for a big play and neither was there most of the game.

10-14-2013, 01:24 PM	#3
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by dizzle88 Brees only looks at jimmy graham, it took him 3 quarters to throw to a different receiver Talib and the Pats said they had the answer to Graham; Brees, Payton, and Graham wanted to prove them otherwise. Ego got in the way perhaps? Who knows when Graham suffered his injury or what would have happened if he would have stayed healthy

10-14-2013, 01:32 PM	#4
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Talib and the Pats said they had the answer to Graham; Brees, Payton, and Graham wanted to prove them otherwise. Ego got in the way perhaps? Who knows when Graham suffered his injury or what would have happened if he would have stayed healthy I think your right with the ego assumption. Anytime Brees has a 47% completion rating you know something has gone wrong. Has Brees ever had that low of a percentage?

10-14-2013, 02:20 PM	#5
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees I love this board but Halo's right. You'd think that the Saints were 1-4 like the Falcons and even if they were, we should see some better banter. Many of the discussions lately are weak and people want to blame a team game on one person or the refs that were so obviously paid off . I still love this team and have since they were 1-15 in 1981. We are lucky to have one of the best Head Coach/Quarterback combos in the NFL. Enjoy it, people! Edit: By the way, the Saints are tied with the best record in the NFC. They are on track to end up with the #1 or #2 seed. Perspective...
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10-14-2013, 02:39 PM	#6
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by blackangold I think your right with the ego assumption. Anytime Brees has a 47% completion rating you know something has gone wrong. Has Brees ever had that low of a percentage? Recent low completion percentage games are: (Year; Game number %age) 2013:2 56.5%, Tampa 2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta 2012:8 52.4%; 2012:3 55.6%; 2012:1 46.2% Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

10-14-2013, 03:09 PM	#7
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat Question. Were any of these also ego driven? Well I have said for a long time that the loss to Atlanta last year was "ego-driven" because of the streak. The Falcons knew that Brees and Carmichael were gonna go for the TD pass, whenever possible, and they did a really great job of taking it away from him, and keeping the passing game in front of them. The Falcons had a "whatever you do, don't give up the big passing play" mentality on defense. The more the game went on, the more desperate Brees got, and next thing you know it was the badly forced two minute drive to end the half, and then it turned into interception city in the second half. I don't think in the Graham case yesterday it was "ego." I think it was just, dependency --the thing has always worked before, and they had gotten a little too reliant on going to him.

10-14-2013, 01:18 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees I have a question. Who is this Colston guy that lead the team in receiving over the last 7 years; maybe he is on IR?

10-14-2013, 01:20 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by blackangold I have a question. Who is this Colston guy that lead the team in receiving over the last 7 years; maybe he is on IR? Brees only looks at jimmy graham, it took him 3 quarters to throw to a different receiver

10-14-2013, 04:52 PM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat Recent low completion percentage games are: (Year; Game number %age) 2013:2 56.5%, Tampa 2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta 2012:8 52.4%; 2012:3 55.6%; 2012:1 46.2% Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com Question. Were any of these also ego driven? Ego driven or not the only game we won on that list was this year against Tampa. Brees has a bad game and we lose (typically). It has been a great start to the season and being 5-1 at this point is better than I thought (4-2). We have an easy shot at the #2 seed, and we'll fight for #1. One thing is for sure, had the NE game been played in the DOME we walk away with an easy win.

10-15-2013, 12:13 AM	#9
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat Recent low completion percentage games are: (Year; Game number %age) 2013:2 56.5%, Tampa 2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta 2012:8 52.4%; 2012:3 55.6%; 2012:1 46.2% Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com Question. Were any of these also ego driven? Could be. NE game he was often looking at 2 places, Jimmy Graham or down field for a big play and neither was there most of the game.
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